A dear friend of mine who is Jewish and a lay leader, wrote that she is horrified. Adding:
"And if we are going to be politically honest, we cannot call the Hamas attack “unprovoked” as American Defenders of Israel are so quick to do. DECADES of provocation on all sides! — with Netanyahu being a major exacerbating force in the present moment. But only Some Jews will say that in the current context, which adds to the total mess. In terms of timing and surprise, this attack resembles the Yom Kippur War which I dimly remember from a 10 year-old’s perspective. . . (the ensuing energy crisis I remember better)."
She adds that she, too, stands with Gandhi.
I very much appreciated receiving her perspective.
As a non-Jew who has been critical of right-wing Isreali policies since at least the Six Days War, I agree with her up and down the line. But as Ghandi implied, the current attack is likely to make things worse, not better.
I also stand with Gandhi, and I agree with Alan. Israel - well, specifically Netanyahu, did bring this upon themselves. They have trapped Palestinians in Gaza with no way to leave, bulldozed their homes in areas and generally treated the Palestinian people to every little torment they could think of. I specifically have always remembered the video of the Israeli soldier taking a bicycle away from a little Palestinian girl - only about eight years old. She began to cry and say, "But it's mine." And he wouldn't let her have it and she walked away in tears. When she was gone he threw her bike into the bushes. The cruelty is the point. (Susan)
{listener} I sure wish the US wasn’t getting physically involved. I remember when US warships pelted Beirut, causing my friend Jerry Levin (then CNN’s Beirut Bureau Chief) to be kidnapped by the Hezbollah…on Ash Wednesday 1985. His wife, Sis Levin, was in seminary (Episcopal) at the time. She was told by the US Gov’t not to speak about the kidnapping at all, for security reasons. Remember how they’d said “no new hostages”? Well, another hostage was taken and one day the two wives met up in the hallway at the Capitol. They had both been told by our Gov’t that the other one was crazy and they shouldn’t talk with one another. When Sis found that her counterpart was perfectly sane, she went on Good Morning America and broke the story. Then she went back to Lebanon and brought art supplies to ALL the children in the hospitals, while seeking an audience with Nabeh Beri. One day her contact (a woman) picked her up in a chauffeured car to go to the meeting. They talked of how Jerry was always fair to all sides in his reporting. After about an hour’s drive she dropped Sis back off where she was staying. “What about the meeting?” Sis asked. “You just had it,” the woman replied. (The mysterious driver had been listening.) Not long afterward, on Valentine’s Day 1986, Jerry’s bounds were left free and he escaped.
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I had thought “roiling” was a portmanteau of “rolling” and “boiling,” but I was mistaken. ——Alan
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
Roil \Roil\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Roiled; p. pr. & vb. n. Roiling.] [Cf. OE. roilen to wander; possibly fr. OF. roeler to roll, equiv. to F. rouler. See Roll, v., and cf. Rile.] 1. To render turbid by stirring up the dregs or sediment of; as, to roil wine, cider, etc., in casks or bottles; to roil a spring. [1913 Webster]
2. To disturb, as the temper; to ruffle the temper of; to rouse the passion of resentment in; to perplex. [1913 Webster]
That his friends should believe it, was what roiled him [Judge Jeffreys] exceedingly. --R. North. [1913 Webster]
Note: Provincial in England and colloquial in the United States. A commoner, but less approved, form is rile. [1913 Webster]
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From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006):
roil v 1: be agitated; "the sea was churning in the storm" [syn: churn, boil, moil, roil] 2: make turbid by stirring up the sediments of [syn: roil, rile] ============================= From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0:
178 Moby Thesaurus words for "roil": adiaphanousness, aggravate, agitate, agitation, annoy, arouse, badger, bait, be at, be turbulent, beat, beat up, bedevil, beset, bluster, bobbery, boil, boiling, bother, bristle, brouhaha, brown off, bug, bullyrag, burn up, bustle, carouse, chafe, chivy, churn, churn up, cloudiness, commotion, conturbation, convulse, create a disturbance, create a riot, cut loose, darkness, devil, dimness, disarrange, discompose, discomposure, disorder, disquiet, disquietude, distemper, disturb, disturbance, dog, ebullition, embitter, embroilment, exasperate, excite, excitement, exercise, fash, ferment, fermentation, fever, feverishness, fidgets, flap, flurry, fluster, flutteration, foment, fret, fume, fuss, get, go berserk, gripe, harass, harry, heckle, hector, hound, hubbub, huff, hurly-burly, imperviousness to light, incense, inflame, inquietude, intransparency, irk, irritate, jitters, jumpiness, maelstrom, make a commotion, make an ado, make trouble, malaise, miff, mill, mill around, moil, molest, nag, needle, nerviness, nervosity, nervousness, nettle, nudzh, obscurity, opacity, opaque, opaqueness, paddle, peeve, persecute, perturb, perturbate, perturbation, pester, pick on, pique, plague, pluck the beard, pother, provoke, raise a ruckus, raise a rumpus, raise a storm, rankle, restlessness, ride, rile, riot, ripple, roiledness, roister, roughen, rout, row, ruffle, rumple, run amok, run riot, run wild, seethe, seething, set up, shake, shake up, stir, stir the blood, stir up, swirl, tease, to-do, torment, trepidation, trepidity, trouble, try the patience, tumult, tumultuation, turbidity, turbidness, turbulence, turmoil, tweak the nose, twitter, unease, unrest, upset, vex, whip, whip up, whisk, work up, worry
I'm taking a five day conference today through Thursday, as I am a member of the Shalem Society for Contemplative Leadership. So I won't be around as much, but the front page posts are all set to go. I'll be thinking of you all and everyone involved in this mess in the Middle East. My heart is especially broken that children were kidnapped.
A dear friend of mine who is Jewish and a lay leader, wrote that she is horrified. Adding:
ReplyDelete"And if we are going to be politically honest, we cannot call the Hamas attack “unprovoked” as American Defenders of Israel are so quick to do. DECADES of provocation on all sides! — with Netanyahu being a major exacerbating force in the present moment. But only Some Jews will say that in the current context, which adds to the total mess. In terms of timing and surprise, this attack resembles the Yom Kippur War which I dimly remember from a 10 year-old’s perspective. . . (the ensuing energy crisis I remember better)."
She adds that she, too, stands with Gandhi.
I very much appreciated receiving her perspective.
As a non-Jew who has been critical of right-wing Isreali policies since at least the Six Days War, I agree with her up and down the line. But as Ghandi implied, the current attack is likely to make things worse, not better.
DeleteI also stand with Gandhi, and I agree with Alan. Israel - well, specifically Netanyahu, did bring this upon themselves. They have trapped Palestinians in Gaza with no way to leave, bulldozed their homes in areas and generally treated the Palestinian people to every little torment they could think of. I specifically have always remembered the video of the Israeli soldier taking a bicycle away from a little Palestinian girl - only about eight years old. She began to cry and say, "But it's mine." And he wouldn't let her have it and she walked away in tears. When she was gone he threw her bike into the bushes. The cruelty is the point. (Susan)
ReplyDelete{listener}
DeleteI sure wish the US wasn’t getting physically involved. I remember when US warships pelted Beirut, causing my friend Jerry Levin (then CNN’s Beirut Bureau Chief) to be kidnapped by the Hezbollah…on Ash Wednesday 1985. His wife, Sis Levin, was in seminary (Episcopal) at the time. She was told by the US Gov’t not to speak about the kidnapping at all, for security reasons. Remember how they’d said “no new hostages”? Well, another hostage was taken and one day the two wives met up in the hallway at the Capitol. They had both been told by our Gov’t that the other one was crazy and they shouldn’t talk with one another. When Sis found that her counterpart was perfectly sane, she went on Good Morning America and broke the story. Then she went back to Lebanon and brought art supplies to ALL the children in the hospitals, while seeking an audience with Nabeh Beri. One day her contact (a woman) picked her up in a chauffeured car to go to the meeting. They talked of how Jerry was always fair to all sides in his reporting. After about an hour’s drive she dropped Sis back off where she was staying.
“What about the meeting?” Sis asked.
“You just had it,” the woman replied.
(The mysterious driver had been listening.)
Not long afterward, on Valentine’s Day 1986, Jerry’s bounds were left free and he escaped.
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ReplyDelete——Alan
WaPo headline: Divisions Over Abortion Roil 2024 GOP Field
ReplyDeleteI had thought “roiling” was a portmanteau of “rolling” and “boiling,” but I was mistaken.
——Alan
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48:
Roil \Roil\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Roiled; p. pr. & vb. n.
Roiling.] [Cf. OE. roilen to wander; possibly fr. OF.
roeler to roll, equiv. to F. rouler. See Roll, v., and cf.
Rile.]
1. To render turbid by stirring up the dregs or sediment of;
as, to roil wine, cider, etc., in casks or bottles; to
roil a spring.
[1913 Webster]
2. To disturb, as the temper; to ruffle the temper of; to
rouse the passion of resentment in; to perplex.
[1913 Webster]
That his friends should believe it, was what roiled
him [Judge Jeffreys] exceedingly. --R. North.
[1913 Webster]
Note: Provincial in England and colloquial in the United
States. A commoner, but less approved, form is rile.
[1913 Webster]
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From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006):
roil
v 1: be agitated; "the sea was churning in the storm" [syn:
churn, boil, moil, roil]
2: make turbid by stirring up the sediments of [syn: roil,
rile]
=============================
From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0:
178 Moby Thesaurus words for "roil":
adiaphanousness, aggravate, agitate, agitation, annoy, arouse,
badger, bait, be at, be turbulent, beat, beat up, bedevil, beset,
bluster, bobbery, boil, boiling, bother, bristle, brouhaha,
brown off, bug, bullyrag, burn up, bustle, carouse, chafe, chivy,
churn, churn up, cloudiness, commotion, conturbation, convulse,
create a disturbance, create a riot, cut loose, darkness, devil,
dimness, disarrange, discompose, discomposure, disorder, disquiet,
disquietude, distemper, disturb, disturbance, dog, ebullition,
embitter, embroilment, exasperate, excite, excitement, exercise,
fash, ferment, fermentation, fever, feverishness, fidgets, flap,
flurry, fluster, flutteration, foment, fret, fume, fuss, get,
go berserk, gripe, harass, harry, heckle, hector, hound, hubbub,
huff, hurly-burly, imperviousness to light, incense, inflame,
inquietude, intransparency, irk, irritate, jitters, jumpiness,
maelstrom, make a commotion, make an ado, make trouble, malaise,
miff, mill, mill around, moil, molest, nag, needle, nerviness,
nervosity, nervousness, nettle, nudzh, obscurity, opacity, opaque,
opaqueness, paddle, peeve, persecute, perturb, perturbate,
perturbation, pester, pick on, pique, plague, pluck the beard,
pother, provoke, raise a ruckus, raise a rumpus, raise a storm,
rankle, restlessness, ride, rile, riot, ripple, roiledness,
roister, roughen, rout, row, ruffle, rumple, run amok, run riot,
run wild, seethe, seething, set up, shake, shake up, stir,
stir the blood, stir up, swirl, tease, to-do, torment, trepidation,
trepidity, trouble, try the patience, tumult, tumultuation,
turbidity, turbidness, turbulence, turmoil, tweak the nose,
twitter, unease, unrest, upset, vex, whip, whip up, whisk, work up,
worry
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I'm taking a five day conference today through Thursday, as I am a member of the Shalem Society for Contemplative Leadership. So I won't be around as much, but the front page posts are all set to go. I'll be thinking of you all and everyone involved in this mess in the Middle East. My heart is especially broken that children were kidnapped.
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