I am truly concerned about Michigan. I simply do not see why a state that has suffered so at the hands of the political elites should continue to support them. But maybe the punditocracy doesn't have it figured right. There are still two more days of heavy campaigning and major TV events. And the pollsters are skating on thin ice these days.
I went to visit a friend here in Vermont Friday. As I drove down her road I noted two permanent, year-round road signs that made me laugh out loud. They read: "Drifting Snow."
LOL Alan. I just assumed the screen reader was misreading fogy or I was mishearing it, or both.
Never seen a long ballot as you describe on the last thread, but our precinct was still using paper ballots until at least the '04 election. I actually had the ability to write in Howard, and I have always regretted not doing so. For a while there was a choice or mixture of paper ballots and machines if memory serves, but I've voted absentee for quite some time now so don't know what facilities the polling place currently uses.
From politicalwire.com: Mitt Romney would not rule out becoming the Republican Party’s nominee in a NBC News interview. Said Romney: “I don’t think anyone in our party should say, “Oh no, even if the people in the party wanted me to be the president I would say no to it.” No one’s going to say that.”
HuffPost says Bernie has won 15 delegates, Clinton has won 9, and 6 are undecided. With all votes from yesterday in, Clinton won 57 delegates, Bernie won 52. So Bernie will likely have a net gain of 3 or 4 delegates for the weekend. Essentially a wash. With one more of Clinton's Southern states in the rear view mirror, that's a satisfactory result.
Nice! Now on to Michigan etc. I have never yet watched a presidential debate and don't plan to start now, but I anticipate that the one tonight and the Faux Gnus event tomorrow will be contentious.
Headline: "Sanders, Clinton get testy over auto bailout"
Huh? Gotta look into this. And I see that HRC has finally agreed with Bernie that the Governor of Michigan should step down over the Flint water scandal.
Sanders actually supported a bailout for the auto industry when it came up as standalone legislation in December 2008. However that billed failed to make it out of the Senate. The auto bailout was eventually funded through the larger legislation passed and signed into law earlier, in October 2008, that bailed out the financial industry. Sanders had opposed the earlier bailout legislation.
Oooo--it does seem to have become rather testy according to talkingpointsmemo.com! But still civilized compared to the GOP debates. I should expect the Faux Gnus moderators are tuning up their questions on the basis of tonight's encounter.
My first marriage was effectively ended when the then-hubby removed a McCarthy bumper sticker from my car. Not his or ours, but my own personal transportation.
"Pine Tree State voters waited in hours-long lines on Sunday to caucus in the Democratic race. Maine Democratic Party chairman Phil Bartlett told the Portland Press Herald that the turnout was “extraordinary,” and the city of Portland was required to change the caucus rules to allow all voters to participate. Voters waiting on snaking lines were allowed to fill out paper ballots rather than participate in the traditional, town hall style caucus."
It was record turnouts in both Kansas and Nebraska. In Lincoln there was a big turnout of University of Nebraska students, and the county went about 2:1 for Bernie.
I am so angry at Howard Dean I could just spit! On Facebook he said he's using his Superdelegate vote for Hillary no matter what the people vote. He's quoted as saying, "I'll do what I think is best for the country." Really? You would place yourself as arbiter of the people's vote? You would put yourself above the people? And how do you know what's best for the country at this point in your life? Becoming a lobbyist has certainly shifted his viewpoint. He's definitely not from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party these days. He should be ashamed of himself. I certainly am ashamed of him.
Sounds like he's been drinking too much of that Beltway water...it seems to do things to people. But in the event he will go with the evident winner, be it Bernie or Hillary. He has become a follower, not a leader. Too bad. What you said about the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. Any input on how things are looking in your neck of the woods? I don't think many people out here are paying attention yet (and few expect California's vote will matter anyway).
While I tentatively expect California to be decisive. There is a huge block of delegates -- almost twice as many as New York and more than twice as many as Texas or Florida. Nothing we've seen so far suggests either candidate will have an insurmountable lead by then.
Susan, I am super-disappointed with Howard Dean. I definitely feel your pain, being here in the land of both Howard and Bernie, and seeing Dean and also Leahy royally screw up their representation of me and all of Vermont. I'm doubly upset by it.
Darned If I know, puddle. Thinking back, I must had Bill Clinton one thing--he actually visited California a number of times, and not just to rake in bucks from donors in Hollywood and the Bay Area before elections. The attention was appreciated. Then again, I doubt his "Sister Soulja moment" did him any favors among Black voters--it certainly shouldn't have. All very mysterious. BTW, I like a name applied to "welfare" early on--the "Mothers' Pension."
I was always rather puzzled by the broad overlap between the people who thought mothers should stay home with their children and the people who thought poor single mothers should not be given the money to stay home with their children.
Thank-you, Bill, from the bottom of my stay-at-home-mother's heart! I never understood why women who were feminists wanted choice for women, but only if said women chose the same way they would. Those of us who CHOSE to be stay-at-home-moms were not viewed kindly.
What puddle said! If you haven't been here for a while, Susan, you might not have noticed that we seem to have morphed into more of a Bernie-empowered group; but our history remains what it was.
No real idea, other than to note that Bernie is putting feet on the ground here. In yesterday's canvas we encountered a number of Bernie supporters in Berwyn, to my surprise mostly Hillary supporters in Oak Park. Oak Park usually spins liberal. The Democratic Party of Oak Park has made no endorsement for president and so far the newspapers haven't either. Whether the fact Hillary was originally from Illinois makes a difference I don't know.
Hop, Bernie, Hop! Bring Spring to this land!
ReplyDeleteSO happy for Bernie's two big wins on Saturday! C'mon MAINE! Vote wisely, on Tuesday, Michigan! :-)
I am truly concerned about Michigan. I simply do not see why a state that has suffered so at the hands of the political elites should continue to support them. But maybe the punditocracy doesn't have it figured right. There are still two more days of heavy campaigning and major TV events. And the pollsters are skating on thin ice these days.
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I went to visit a friend here in Vermont Friday. As I drove down her road I noted two permanent, year-round road signs that made me laugh out loud. They read: "Drifting Snow."
ReplyDeleteWhy Hillary Could Be a Lot More Vulnerable to Trump Than Bernie
ReplyDelete[Click] This isn't the column I found the other day, but it covers much the same ground.
--Alan
P.S.: There has been enough rain to bring the level of the river up.
The Slow Death of the Political Bumper Sticker
ReplyDelete[Click] And the campaign buttons/pins as well. Another sign I'm a foci.
--Alan
I am a fossil, certainly not "a foci." Automated unintelligence at work--there is no question I wrote "fossil."
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LOL Alan. I just assumed the screen reader was misreading fogy or I was mishearing it, or both.
DeleteNever seen a long ballot as you describe on the last thread, but our precinct was still using paper ballots until at least the '04 election. I actually had the ability to write in Howard, and I have always regretted not doing so. For a while there was a choice or mixture of paper ballots and machines if memory serves, but I've voted absentee for quite some time now so don't know what facilities the polling place currently uses.
Cute front page pic. 'Rockin' Robin'
ReplyDeleteAdvancing on me with those narrowed eyes, the robin seems threatening! But that's anthropomorphism.
ReplyDeleteThe Simpsons: The Two-Party System (1996) [Click]
--Alan
From politicalwire.com:
ReplyDeleteMitt Romney would not rule out becoming the Republican Party’s nominee in a NBC News interview.
Said Romney: “I don’t think anyone in our party should say, “Oh no, even if the people in the party wanted me to be the president I would say no to it.” No one’s going to say that.”
R. McKee Cartoon March 3rd [Click]
--Alan
A good thing bears repeating.--Alan
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wOOt!
ReplyDeleteKennebunk, Maine:
645 ballots cast:
387 (60%) for Sanders
258 (40%) for Clinton
HuffPost says Bernie has won 15 delegates, Clinton has won 9, and 6 are undecided. With all votes from yesterday in, Clinton won 57 delegates, Bernie won 52. So Bernie will likely have a net gain of 3 or 4 delegates for the weekend. Essentially a wash. With one more of Clinton's Southern states in the rear view mirror, that's a satisfactory result.
ReplyDeleteSanders wins Maine decisively
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Nice! Now on to Michigan etc. I have never yet watched a presidential debate and don't plan to start now, but I anticipate that the one tonight and the Faux Gnus event tomorrow will be contentious.
--Alan
With 91.1% reporting, Bernie 64.3%, HRC 35.5 per politico.com
ReplyDelete--Alan
E-mail from Bernie saying they got their five million contributions just before he stepped onto the stage for tonight's debate.
ReplyDeleteAlan
Headline: "Sanders, Clinton get testy over auto bailout"
ReplyDeleteHuh? Gotta look into this. And I see that HRC has finally agreed with Bernie that the Governor of Michigan should step down over the Flint water scandal.
Alan
From talkingpointsmemo.com:
DeleteSanders actually supported a bailout for the auto industry when it came up as standalone legislation in December 2008. However that billed failed to make it out of the Senate. The auto bailout was eventually funded through the larger legislation passed and signed into law earlier, in October 2008, that bailed out the financial industry. Sanders had opposed the earlier bailout legislation.
--Alan
Oooo--it does seem to have become rather testy according to talkingpointsmemo.com! But still civilized compared to the GOP debates. I should expect the Faux Gnus moderators are tuning up their questions on the basis of tonight's encounter.
ReplyDeleteAlan
My first marriage was effectively ended when the then-hubby removed a McCarthy bumper sticker from my car. Not his or ours, but my own personal transportation.
ReplyDeleteVery poor form indeed...
DeleteAlan
"Pine Tree State voters waited in hours-long lines on Sunday to caucus in the Democratic race. Maine Democratic Party chairman Phil Bartlett told the Portland Press Herald that the turnout was “extraordinary,” and the city of Portland was required to change the caucus rules to allow all voters to participate. Voters waiting on snaking lines were allowed to fill out paper ballots rather than participate in the traditional, town hall style caucus."
ReplyDeleteLike in Nebraska, or was it Kansas?
Alan
It was record turnouts in both Kansas and Nebraska. In Lincoln there was a big turnout of University of Nebraska students, and the county went about 2:1 for Bernie.
Delete--Alan
I am so angry at Howard Dean I could just spit! On Facebook he said he's using his Superdelegate vote for Hillary no matter what the people vote. He's quoted as saying, "I'll do what I think is best for the country." Really? You would place yourself as arbiter of the people's vote? You would put yourself above the people? And how do you know what's best for the country at this point in your life? Becoming a lobbyist has certainly shifted his viewpoint. He's definitely not from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party these days. He should be ashamed of himself. I certainly am ashamed of him.
ReplyDeleteSounds like he's been drinking too much of that Beltway water...it seems to do things to people. But in the event he will go with the evident winner, be it Bernie or Hillary. He has become a follower, not a leader. Too bad. What you said about the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. Any input on how things are looking in your neck of the woods? I don't think many people out here are paying attention yet (and few expect California's vote will matter anyway).
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While I tentatively expect California to be decisive. There is a huge block of delegates -- almost twice as many as New York and more than twice as many as Texas or Florida. Nothing we've seen so far suggests either candidate will have an insurmountable lead by then.
DeleteSusan, I am super-disappointed with Howard Dean. I definitely feel your pain, being here in the land of both Howard and Bernie, and seeing Dean and also Leahy royally screw up their representation of me and all of Vermont. I'm doubly upset by it.
DeleteCan anyone explain to me the Black community's forgiveness of "The end of welfare as we know it?" I've never forgiven them.
ReplyDeleteDarned If I know, puddle. Thinking back, I must had Bill Clinton one thing--he actually visited California a number of times, and not just to rake in bucks from donors in Hollywood and the Bay Area before elections. The attention was appreciated. Then again, I doubt his "Sister Soulja moment" did him any favors among Black voters--it certainly shouldn't have. All very mysterious. BTW, I like a name applied to "welfare" early on--the "Mothers' Pension."
Delete--Alan
I was always rather puzzled by the broad overlap between the people who thought mothers should stay home with their children and the people who thought poor single mothers should not be given the money to stay home with their children.
DeleteWhen my dad died, my mom still had six of her nine to raise to adulthood. Which she did on SS. Had he just left, it would have been welfare. NO fair.
DeleteThank-you, Bill, from the bottom of my stay-at-home-mother's heart! I never understood why women who were feminists wanted choice for women, but only if said women chose the same way they would. Those of us who CHOSE to be stay-at-home-moms were not viewed kindly.
DeleteHi, Susan! xox
ReplyDeleteWhat puddle said! If you haven't been here for a while, Susan, you might not have noticed that we seem to have morphed into more of a Bernie-empowered group; but our history remains what it was.
Delete--Alan
Bill--looking at polls, I see there have hardly been any in Illinois! Any idea how things stand?
ReplyDeleteAlan
No real idea, other than to note that Bernie is putting feet on the ground here. In yesterday's canvas we encountered a number of Bernie supporters in Berwyn, to my surprise mostly Hillary supporters in Oak Park. Oak Park usually spins liberal. The Democratic Party of Oak Park has made no endorsement for president and so far the newspapers haven't either. Whether the fact Hillary was originally from Illinois makes a difference I don't know.
DeleteIf Illinois cares that Hillary was originally from there, I hope that New York cares that Bernie was originally from Brooklyn! ;-)
DeleteAmen, listener.
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