Two links; I think the first is the better analysis, but they share a statement (in essence) and a word (in particular):
Bhaskar Sunkara: Sanders is leading the pack in Iowa – and that's good news for Democrats [Click] “Bernie Sanders has outsider appeal — but knows how to both win and govern.” “Surprise has turned into panic. With Bernie Sanders leading in early battleground states and competitive with former vice-president Joe Biden nationally, the Democratic establishment is sounding the alarm.”
In Vermont, two term Lt. Gov. Zuckerman has announced he will run for Governor. This is good because he is an awesome progressive, very well liked, and knows how to govern. It’s pretty cool that Vermont often elects a Governor from one party and a Lt. Gov. from another party. Currently the mix is Republican Gov and Progressive Lt Gov.
Bernie has nothing to do with volunteers trashing Warren...
"It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn't win," Sanders said. "It's sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016." . . . "I have never said a negative word about Elizabeth Warren, who is a friend of mine," Sanders said.
The alleged script was published by Politico.com, which thrives on "Democrats in Disarray" stories. Absent independent confirmation, I should consider it questionable.
I was able to verify the quote from Twitter; here it is:
Heavy has not obtained an original copy of the script to confirm it. ABC News also has not obtained a copy. Volunteers told Heavy that it was just on the Slack for a minute, was not posted by anyone connected to the campaign, and was quickly taken down by moderators.
Eric Isaac, a Kings County Democratic Committee Member, also posted on Twitter that the script came from a random user who had only posted once. A moderator said it wasn’t from the campaign.
Bernie Sanders volunteer hits back:
Here’s what actually happened. A random user who’s only ever posted once before posted that document in the Sanders volunteer Slack group. A moderator promptly removed it and stated that it was NOT a campaign source. https://t.co/gt2xSvQNX5
— eric isaac (@ericisaac) January 12, 2020
The original copy of the script that was not retyped has not surfaced. ================================= Sounds like the Politico.com reporter reported a fake story, and Warren fell for it.
Here’s the text of the web page, copied and recopied as plain text to make sure it is safe. Have to divide into multiple posts because of the size. ==================================== Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below. ——————————————— In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
Back in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988, BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
Sanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
Bernie Sanders Said a Woman Could Be President [VIDEOS]
Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below. In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
Back in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988,@BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
Sanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
VideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
At the time of the video, Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Observer reported in 2016. Sanders was one of a few to support Jackson’s bid for the presidency. Michael Dukakis ultimately won the nomination.
Here’s the speech where Sanders endorsed Jackson at a Democratic caucus, for more background on what was going on during that period of time.
Bernie Sanders Said a Woman Could Be President [VIDEOS]
Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below.
In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
Back in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988,@BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
— Every nimble plane is a policy failure. (@KindAndUnblind) January 13, 2020
Sanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
VideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
At the time of the video, Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Observer reported in 2016. Sanders was one of a few to support Jackson’s bid for the presidency. Michael Dukakis ultimately won the nomination.
Here’s the speech where Sanders endorsed Jackson at a Democratic caucus, for more background on what was going on during that period of time.
VideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
Back in March 2019, Warren was asked during SXSW if Sanders discouraged her from running for President. Michael Calderone of Politico said that Warren told him: “So Bernie and I had a private dinner and my view is that dinner stays private.”
Asked if Sanders discouraged her from running, Warren responds: “So Bernie and I had a private dinner and my view is that dinner stays private.”
— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) March 9, 2019
Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ campaign manager, has said that Sanders never told Warren that a woman couldn’t win.
————————————— In 1987, Sanders Encouraged a Group of Students to Remember that Women Had a Right to Run for President Too
Here’s a video in 1987 of Bernie Sanders telling third graders that a woman has as much of a right to run for President as a man.
Bernie Sanders telling a class of 3rd graders in 1987 that women have as much right as men do to run for office. “It’s changing, but it’s not changing fast enough.” pic.twitter.com/XM1KNPJT0S
— pj evans (@pjayevans) January 13, 2020
“I hope all the girls in this class understand that you, just as much as the boys, have a right to become President… I hope the girls will think that they have a right to be involved in politics quite as much as the boys do. It’s beginning to change, but it’s not changing fast enough.” —————————————
The Comments About the Dinner Surfaced Shortly After a Controversial Script Was Shared, Which Sanders Volunteers Say Is Not from the Campaign
The anonymous comments about Sanders’ and Warren’s dinner reported by CNN come right after another unknown person posted an alleged talking points script in a Bernie Sanders Slack chat for volunteers. Politico was the first to report on the script. Although described in the headline as a script that “slams” Warren, it actually simply said that she was a good choice and “people who support who are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what. She’s bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party…” The script was alleged to be part of a training script for volunteers, but Sanders volunteers are refuting its authenticity.
Here’s the script in question, shared by Politico reporter Alex Thompson.
Scoop: Bernie stealthily goes negative on Warren w/ a volunteer script to tell Warren-leaning voters that she only appeals to the “affluent”/”highly-educated” & “She’s bringing no new bases into the Dem Party” (I re-typed script below to protect sourcing) https://t.co/4IxNYNosrO pic.twitter.com/afussXPPlB
— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) January 12, 2020
Thompson said in a later tweet that the document was authentic because Sanders’ campaign did not deny the authenticity before he published it, and the document read “Paid for By Bernie 2020.” He also tweeted: “I re-typed script below to protect sourcing.”
Shortly after the news broke, Warren’s campaign sent out a fundraising email saying that this was not true of her supporters.
Meanwhile, Buzzfeed reported that Sanders said, “I think this is a little bit of a media blow up. The kind of wants conflict. Elizabeth Warren is a very good friend of mine. We have worked together in the Senate for years. Elizabeth Warren and I continue to work together. We will debate the issues. Nobody is gonna trash Elizabeth… We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldn’t. You have heard me give many speeches. Have I ever said one word about Elizabeth Warren?”
When asked if he approved of the script, Sanders said, “Nooo. Of course I did not…”
Bernie: “No one is going to be attacking Elizabeth.”
“We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldn’t. You have heard me give many speeches. Have I ever said one word about Elizabeth Warren?” pic.twitter.com/ozOAfu5tYr
— Ruby Cramer (@rubycramer) January 12, 2020
Heavy has not obtained an original copy of the script to confirm it. ABC News also has not obtained a copy. Volunteers told Heavy that it was just on the Slack for a minute, was not posted by anyone connected to the campaign, and was quickly taken down by moderators.
Eric Isaac, a Kings County Democratic Committee Member, also posted on Twitter that the script came from a random user who had only posted once. A moderator said it wasn’t from the campaign.
Bernie Sanders volunteer hits back:
Here’s what actually happened. A random user who’s only ever posted once before posted that document in the Sanders volunteer Slack group. A moderator promptly removed it and stated that it was NOT a campaign source. https://t.co/gt2xSvQNX5
— eric isaac (@ericisaac) January 12, 2020
The original copy of the script that was not retyped has not surfaced.
————————————————— In a 2013 Interview, Sanders Said He’d Be Happy if Warren Ran for President
Back before the 2016 election, a lot of people wanted Elizabeth Warren to run for President. At the time, Bernie Sanders hadn’t decided yet if he would run or not. In 2013, he had an interview with Burlington Free Press about the 2016 campaign. That story has since been taken down and a search for it on the Internet Archive notes that the story has been “excluded” from the archive. (It appears all Burlington Free Press stories are excluded.) But you can still find other publications quoting from the story.
HuffPost and The Hill both published stories about the interview in 2013, quoting Sanders as saying that he would prefer not to run for President, but would if no one else would who was ready to challenge the establishment. He said that Warren could get his support if she ran. He was quoted as saying: “I like Elizabeth Warren very much. Her beauty is that she is very smart. She speaks English. She can explain economics in a way that everybody can understand.”
A beautiful rabbit.
ReplyDeleteAnd very tolerant of grandsons. 😊
DeleteWow! Finally a light frost, the first of this winter.
ReplyDeleteGetting ready for the docs this a.m. and realized that I'll never be "presentable" again. Somewhat less than horrific is the best I can do. Sobering.
ReplyDeleteI feel ya, puddle. Same story here. The only reason my face doesn't bother me more is that most of the time I'm behind it.
DeleteLove to you, puddle. ❤️
DeleteWe like you just the way you are.
Probably just an old mirror; I have the same problem here. In my heart I know I have a full head of hair.
DeleteFrankly, I don't know what "presentable" means. I haven't worn a suit for nearly two decades. Does that make me "not presentable"?
DeleteAnd, yes, I absolutely do understand that that is the very least of the world's problems.
ReplyDeleteTwo links; I think the first is the better analysis, but they share a statement (in essence) and a word (in particular):
ReplyDeleteBhaskar Sunkara: Sanders is leading the pack in Iowa – and that's good news for Democrats [Click] “Bernie Sanders has outsider appeal — but knows how to both win and govern.” “Surprise has turned into panic. With Bernie Sanders leading in early battleground states and competitive with former vice-president Joe Biden nationally, the Democratic establishment is sounding the alarm.”
Bernie Sanders surges in Democratic field after shrugging off health scare [Click] “Sanders’ potential for victory, meanwhile, has stirred panic among establishment-minded Democrats.”
Cory Booker has suspended his presidential campaign.
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if he'll break up with Rosario Dawson now that she's no longer needed. Yes, I know it's snarky, but he deserves it.
Delete3.4 Earthquake at the New York - Canada border. But as it struck at 5:38am, I slept through it. It was felt all across the top of Vermont and nearly to Montpelier in the center of the state.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.wcax.com/content/news/Earthquake-hits-northern-NY-566934581.html
I seem to recall that the cause of earthquakes in northern New York is obscure Here is a History of Earthquakes in New York (and nearby areas) [Click]
DeleteJust heard on NPR that Cory Booker has dropped out.
ReplyDeleteIn Vermont, two term Lt. Gov. Zuckerman has announced he will run for Governor.
ReplyDeleteThis is good because he is an awesome progressive, very well liked, and knows how to govern. It’s pretty cool that Vermont often elects a Governor from one party and a Lt. Gov. from another party. Currently the mix is Republican Gov and Progressive Lt Gov.
Lt. Gov. Howard Dean was sworn in when Republican Gov. Richard Snelling died in office.
DeleteExtremists of either major party need not apply, evidently. That used to be common out here too, when I was young.
DeleteI just noticed "Progressive [Party]." Looked it up on Wikipedia. Sounds OK (kinda middle of the road, actually) to this old Pinko.
DeleteCanada business chief lashes Trump over Iran plane crash https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51095769
ReplyDeleteI see nothing to argue with in his statement.
DeleteBernie has nothing to do with volunteers trashing Warren...
ReplyDelete"It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn't win," Sanders said. "It's sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016."
. . .
"I have never said a negative word about Elizabeth Warren, who is a friend of mine," Sanders said.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html
The alleged script was published by Politico.com, which thrives on "Democrats in Disarray" stories. Absent independent confirmation, I should consider it questionable.
DeleteWarren “Confirms” Sanders Said a Woman Could Not Win [Click] It sounds most unlikely. And I want to hear where that alleged Bernie anti-Warren script came from.
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ReplyDeleteBernie Sanders [repeatedly] Said a Woman Could Be President [VIDEOS], and the alleged anti-Warren script for Bernie volunteers seems to have been fake. [Click] However, the linked web site with this information is a Nigerian one. [Beware of “flash driver updates”] It has Twitter links, but I didn’t click on any of them. I note that my security program stopped a popup from opening. I will see if I can find better references.
I was able to verify the quote from Twitter; here it is:
DeleteHeavy has not obtained an original copy of the script to confirm it. ABC News also has not obtained a copy. Volunteers told Heavy that it was just on the Slack for a minute, was not posted by anyone connected to the campaign, and was quickly taken down by moderators.
Eric Isaac, a Kings County Democratic Committee Member, also posted on Twitter that the script came from a random user who had only posted once. A moderator said it wasn’t from the campaign.
Bernie Sanders volunteer hits back:
Here’s what actually happened. A random user who’s only ever posted once before posted that document in the Sanders volunteer Slack group. A moderator promptly removed it and stated that it was NOT a campaign source. https://t.co/gt2xSvQNX5
— eric isaac (@ericisaac) January 12, 2020
The original copy of the script that was not retyped has not surfaced.
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Sounds like the Politico.com reporter reported a fake story, and Warren fell for it.
Here’s the text of the web page, copied and recopied as plain text to make sure it is safe. Have to divide into multiple posts because of the size.
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Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below.
———————————————
In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
Back in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988, BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
Sanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
Bernie Sanders Said a Woman Could Be President [VIDEOS]
Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below.
In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
Back in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988,@BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
ReplyDeleteSanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
VideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
At the time of the video, Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Observer reported in 2016. Sanders was one of a few to support Jackson’s bid for the presidency. Michael Dukakis ultimately won the nomination.
Here’s the speech where Sanders endorsed Jackson at a Democratic caucus, for more background on what was going on during that period of time.
Bernie Sanders Said a Woman Could Be President [VIDEOS]
Recently, anonymous sources have said that Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in a 2018 conversation that he didn’t believe a woman could win the presidency, according to a CNN report. Sanders has refuted that claim and other sources have surfaced showing that Sanders had voiced a favorable view of Warren as President back in 2013. Meanwhile, in the 1980s he said that women should run for President and could win. See videos and quotes in the story below.
In 1988, Sanders Said He Believed a Woman Could Be Elected President
ReplyDeleteBack in 1988, when Sanders supported Jesse Jackson for President, he said that he believed a woman could win the presidency. Here’s a video.
1988,@BernieSanders, backing Jackson:”The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man *in my view, a woman could be elected POTUS* The real issue is are you on the side of workers & poor ppl, or are you on the side of big money &corporations?” pic.twitter.com/VHmfzvyJdy
— Every nimble plane is a policy failure. (@KindAndUnblind) January 13, 2020
Sanders said: “The real issue is not whether you’re black or white, whether you’re a woman or a man – in my view, a woman could be elected President of the United States. The real issue is whose side are you on? Are you on the side of workers and poor people, or are you on the side of big money and the corporations?”
The video has resurfaced after CNN reported that anonymous sources said Sanders told Warren in 2018 that a woman couldn’t win the presidency. The alleged statement was made during a private dinner between the two at Warren’s home. The sources are two people who said Warren talked to them after the dinner, and two people “familiar with the meeting.”
In a statement to CNN, Sanders said he did not say those words.
It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn’t win. It’s sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren’t in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016.”
Kristen Orthman, Warren’s communications director, would not comment, CNN said.
After the report came out, the 1988 video where he said he believed a woman could win resurfaced. You can view the full video below. It was recorded on January 20, 1988 and his comments about a woman being elected were made around 10:55.
ReplyDeleteVideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
At the time of the video, Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, Observer reported in 2016. Sanders was one of a few to support Jackson’s bid for the presidency. Michael Dukakis ultimately won the nomination.
Here’s the speech where Sanders endorsed Jackson at a Democratic caucus, for more background on what was going on during that period of time.
VideoVideo related to watch: in the 1980s, bernie sanders said a woman could be elected president [videos]2020-01-13T18:47:59-05:00
Back in March 2019, Warren was asked during SXSW if Sanders discouraged her from running for President. Michael Calderone of Politico said that Warren told him: “So Bernie and I had a private dinner and my view is that dinner stays private.”
Asked if Sanders discouraged her from running, Warren responds: “So Bernie and I had a private dinner and my view is that dinner stays private.”
— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) March 9, 2019
Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ campaign manager, has said that Sanders never told Warren that a woman couldn’t win.
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In 1987, Sanders Encouraged a Group of Students to Remember that Women Had a Right to Run for President Too
Here’s a video in 1987 of Bernie Sanders telling third graders that a woman has as much of a right to run for President as a man.
Bernie Sanders telling a class of 3rd graders in 1987 that women have as much right as men do to run for office. “It’s changing, but it’s not changing fast enough.” pic.twitter.com/XM1KNPJT0S
— pj evans (@pjayevans) January 13, 2020
“I hope all the girls in this class understand that you, just as much as the boys, have a right to become President… I hope the girls will think that they have a right to be involved in politics quite as much as the boys do. It’s beginning to change, but it’s not changing fast enough.”
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The Comments About the Dinner Surfaced Shortly After a Controversial Script Was Shared, Which Sanders Volunteers Say Is Not from the Campaign
ReplyDeleteThe anonymous comments about Sanders’ and Warren’s dinner reported by CNN come right after another unknown person posted an alleged talking points script in a Bernie Sanders Slack chat for volunteers. Politico was the first to report on the script. Although described in the headline as a script that “slams” Warren, it actually simply said that she was a good choice and “people who support who are highly-educated, more affluent people who are going to show up and vote Democratic no matter what. She’s bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party…” The script was alleged to be part of a training script for volunteers, but Sanders volunteers are refuting its authenticity.
Here’s the script in question, shared by Politico reporter Alex Thompson.
Scoop: Bernie stealthily goes negative on Warren w/ a volunteer script to tell Warren-leaning voters that she only appeals to the “affluent”/”highly-educated” &
“She’s bringing no new bases into the Dem Party” (I re-typed script below to protect sourcing) https://t.co/4IxNYNosrO pic.twitter.com/afussXPPlB
— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) January 12, 2020
Thompson said in a later tweet that the document was authentic because Sanders’ campaign did not deny the authenticity before he published it, and the document read “Paid for By Bernie 2020.” He also tweeted: “I re-typed script below to protect sourcing.”
Shortly after the news broke, Warren’s campaign sent out a fundraising email saying that this was not true of her supporters.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Buzzfeed reported that Sanders said, “I think this is a little bit of a media blow up. The kind of wants conflict. Elizabeth Warren is a very good friend of mine. We have worked together in the Senate for years. Elizabeth Warren and I continue to work together. We will debate the issues. Nobody is gonna trash Elizabeth… We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldn’t. You have heard me give many speeches. Have I ever said one word about Elizabeth Warren?”
When asked if he approved of the script, Sanders said, “Nooo. Of course I did not…”
Bernie: “No one is going to be attacking Elizabeth.”
“We have hundreds of employees. Elizabeth Warren has hundreds of employees. And people sometimes say things that they shouldn’t. You have heard me give many speeches. Have I ever said one word about Elizabeth Warren?” pic.twitter.com/ozOAfu5tYr
— Ruby Cramer (@rubycramer) January 12, 2020
Heavy has not obtained an original copy of the script to confirm it. ABC News also has not obtained a copy. Volunteers told Heavy that it was just on the Slack for a minute, was not posted by anyone connected to the campaign, and was quickly taken down by moderators.
Eric Isaac, a Kings County Democratic Committee Member, also posted on Twitter that the script came from a random user who had only posted once. A moderator said it wasn’t from the campaign.
Bernie Sanders volunteer hits back:
Here’s what actually happened. A random user who’s only ever posted once before posted that document in the Sanders volunteer Slack group. A moderator promptly removed it and stated that it was NOT a campaign source. https://t.co/gt2xSvQNX5
— eric isaac (@ericisaac) January 12, 2020
The original copy of the script that was not retyped has not surfaced.
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In a 2013 Interview, Sanders Said He’d Be Happy if Warren Ran for President
Back before the 2016 election, a lot of people wanted Elizabeth Warren to run for President. At the time, Bernie Sanders hadn’t decided yet if he would run or not. In 2013, he had an interview with Burlington Free Press about the 2016 campaign. That story has since been taken down and a search for it on the Internet Archive notes that the story has been “excluded” from the archive. (It appears all Burlington Free Press stories are excluded.) But you can still find other publications quoting from the story.
HuffPost and The Hill both published stories about the interview in 2013, quoting Sanders as saying that he would prefer not to run for President, but would if no one else would who was ready to challenge the establishment. He said that Warren could get his support if she ran. He was quoted as saying: “I like Elizabeth Warren very much. Her beauty is that she is very smart. She speaks English. She can explain economics in a way that everybody can understand.”
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