Will Blue-Collar Dems Run to Trump? Fuhgeddaboudit! [Click] Levison's second white working class group is consciously liberal. It consists of two factions that vote pretty consistently Democratic. One faction is older New Deal unionists "who look at Bernie," says Levison, "and say 'My God, he reminds me of the needle trades [garment workers].’” YAYYYY!! My Tribe!
I haven't been able to find any confirmation of it as yet, but my brother who watches the news like it's his profession said that Bill Clinton is going into polling places again today.
I find only some generalized comments that turnouts are generally high, very high (even record-breaking) in places--and absentee/early ballots are the same.
I'd have to move to another state to caucus for Bernia. But I just VOTED for Bernie. Got my "I've voted" sticker, which I discovered I put on upside down.
Relief to have that don. Now for a much-needed nap.
Bernie's Rage Against the Machine [Click] “Sanders’s candidacy has beaten back elite, establishment corporate centrism, offering his party a viable progressive alternative. That’s why he has already won.”
Looks like Florida was disappointing: With nearly 3/4 of the vote in, Clinton has 64%. And HuffPost has called North Carolina for Clinton with on 7% of the vote in. I wonder if exit polls are that accurate. No calls outside the South.
I'm kind of on edge as I watch the early returns. If Bernie doesn't make it, and if HRC is the nominee , enough people dislike her already that …. he whose name I do not utter could actually be the next president. I will have nightmares thinking about that. We'd all have to move to Cape Breton together. Or move to Vermont and secede to Canada!
And current Illinois results are hard to interpret because, with 30% of the total vote in, something on the order of 80% is from Cook County (combining Chicago and the suburbs, although the state doesn't). How the rest of the state will to is anyone's guess at this point.
Granted it is yet early days, but HRC is ahead in almost every county of Ohio. Few or no votes from Cleveland yet. The distribution of GOP votes is very different--Kasich in the lowlands for the most part, and DT in the Appalachian area.
The Path to Convention Chaos [Click] “The March 15 winner-take-all primaries in Florida and Ohio have been billed as make-or-break for the Republican candidates still holding out hope that they can topple Donald Trump. But those contests are also make-or-break for Trump, and for the Republican Party: They will determine whether there’s chaos or a coronation at the Cleveland convention. If Trump can win both states, he’s on a glide path to earning a majority of delegates ahead of the July 18 convention. The only way to dethrone him at that point would be for the GOP to throw out its existing convention rules. A move that dramatic won’t happen. It would divide and destroy a party that has always prided itself on adhering to rules. Story Continued Below
But if Trump doesn’t win both states, the GOP is likely to find itself in Cleveland with no candidate above the 1,237-delegate majority needed to claim the nomination. If that happens, the Republican Party’s own rules lock in a quagmire in Cleveland—and likely a multi-ballot, no-holds-barred convention.”
All in all not great, but not too bad either. Neither Bernie nor HRC knocked out; outside the Confederacy they pretty much split the vote, and neither one will get any electoral votes from the South. The courting of delegates will probably count for more than the margins. (Hey, maybe California's votes will be decisive!) The GOP convention seems headed for extreme disorder, if not an outright train wreck. Whoever emerges should be greatly weakened, and probably a lot of potential GOP voters will stay home come November.
--Alan
It seems the Google Trends search data are about as reliable as the polls (or tea leaves, for that matter). We should simply vote for what or whom we want.
The "reply" button doesn't seem to be working, so I'll post my comment here. I find tonight moderately disappointing. Ohio and North Carolina weren't close, and Florida was far from close. Missouri is another virtual tie. And Illinois was close, but with 96% of the vote in it seems increasingly unlikely that Bernie will be able to overcome Hillary's narrow lead.
I listened to the contested 1952 Republican convention. Fairly amusing for a 16-year-old. Especially the bit about the Virgin Islands.
And the Republican delegate selection process is also fairly amusing. Thesee are very much like Democratic superdelegates except that they are the majority and they are pledged on the first round. In the Illinois Democratic primary, after I had voted for Bernie I scrolled down and voted for the delegates pledged to him.
Well, I'm just plain feeling sad about the results tonight. Mind you, I am not at all disappointed in Bernie Sanders. But I am quite disappointed in Americans this season. Alan, I do hope that California gets to decide for a change!
Also disappointing was that my preferred candidate in IL-10 lost. Nancy Rotering was running against a former Congressman who had the support of the DCCC, but she had the support of Sen. Durbin, several local Democratic organizations, and both Chicago newspapers. Tammy Duckworth won the Senate primary contest, but there was never much doubt of that. And I found the victory email she sent quite inspiring. It didn't exactly support Bernie's campaign points, but left room for her to shirt far enough left to join his camp should he become our president.
We got the power; wanna make sumpin' of it, punk?
ReplyDeleteWill Blue-Collar Dems Run to Trump? Fuhgeddaboudit! [Click] Levison's second white working class group is consciously liberal. It consists of two factions that vote pretty consistently Democratic. One faction is older New Deal unionists "who look at Bernie," says Levison, "and say 'My God, he reminds me of the needle trades [garment workers].’” YAYYYY!! My Tribe!
—Alan
I haven't been able to find any confirmation of it as yet, but my brother who watches the news like it's his profession said that Bill Clinton is going into polling places again today.
ReplyDeletePoliticking inside polling places isn't illegal?!
DeleteI find only some generalized comments that turnouts are generally high, very high (even record-breaking) in places--and absentee/early ballots are the same.
--Alan
Brother Dave said it was in N. Carolina, but I haven't been able to find confirmation of that.
DeleteOvert campaigning is illegal, but a well-known person simply showing up to say hi is not so clear.
DeleteI'd have to move to another state to caucus for Bernia. But I just VOTED for Bernie. Got my "I've voted" sticker, which I discovered I put on upside down.
ReplyDeleteRelief to have that don. Now for a much-needed nap.
don = done. I said I needed a nap.
DeleteI think this is exactly the year to have on an I Voted sticker upside down!
DeleteIt sends the message: "The political process is in distress!"
Good work, Bill.
ReplyDeleteBernie's Rage Against the Machine [Click]
“Sanders’s candidacy has beaten back elite, establishment corporate centrism, offering his party a viable progressive alternative. That’s why he has already won.”
--Alan
Fingers crossed all round.
ReplyDeleteJust got a robocall from the Hillary camp saying voting has been extended to 8 p.m. Sounds like really heavy turnout.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Florida was disappointing: With nearly 3/4 of the vote in, Clinton has 64%. And HuffPost has called North Carolina for Clinton with on 7% of the vote in. I wonder if exit polls are that accurate. No calls outside the South.
ReplyDeleteI'm kind of on edge as I watch the early returns. If Bernie doesn't make it, and if HRC is the nominee , enough people dislike her already that …. he whose name I do not utter could actually be the next president. I will have nightmares thinking about that. We'd all have to move to Cape Breton together. Or move to Vermont and secede to Canada!
ReplyDeleteBernie is ahead in Missouri!
ReplyDeleteThe race is closer in Illinois too.
Hoping!
And current Illinois results are hard to interpret because, with 30% of the total vote in, something on the order of 80% is from Cook County (combining Chicago and the suburbs, although the state doesn't). How the rest of the state will to is anyone's guess at this point.
DeleteGranted it is yet early days, but HRC is ahead in almost every county of Ohio. Few or no votes from Cleveland yet. The distribution of GOP votes is very different--Kasich in the lowlands for the most part, and DT in the Appalachian area.
ReplyDelete--Alan
The Path to Convention Chaos [Click] “The March 15 winner-take-all primaries in Florida and Ohio have been billed as make-or-break for the Republican candidates still holding out hope that they can topple Donald Trump. But those contests are also make-or-break for Trump, and for the Republican Party: They will determine whether there’s chaos or a coronation at the Cleveland convention.
ReplyDeleteIf Trump can win both states, he’s on a glide path to earning a majority of delegates ahead of the July 18 convention. The only way to dethrone him at that point would be for the GOP to throw out its existing convention rules. A move that dramatic won’t happen. It would divide and destroy a party that has always prided itself on adhering to rules.
Story Continued Below
But if Trump doesn’t win both states, the GOP is likely to find itself in Cleveland with no candidate above the 1,237-delegate majority needed to claim the nomination. If that happens, the Republican Party’s own rules lock in a quagmire in Cleveland—and likely a multi-ballot, no-holds-barred convention.”
--Alan
Won't Bozo "throw them all out" if they disagree with him?
DeleteAll in all not great, but not too bad either. Neither Bernie nor HRC knocked out; outside the Confederacy they pretty much split the vote, and neither one will get any electoral votes from the South. The courting of delegates will probably count for more than the margins. (Hey, maybe California's votes will be decisive!) The GOP convention seems headed for extreme disorder, if not an outright train wreck. Whoever emerges should be greatly weakened, and probably a lot of potential GOP voters will stay home come November.
ReplyDelete--Alan
It seems the Google Trends search data are about as reliable as the polls (or tea leaves, for that matter). We should simply vote for what or whom we want.
--Alan
The "reply" button doesn't seem to be working, so I'll post my comment here. I find tonight moderately disappointing. Ohio and North Carolina weren't close, and Florida was far from close. Missouri is another virtual tie. And Illinois was close, but with 96% of the vote in it seems increasingly unlikely that Bernie will be able to overcome Hillary's narrow lead.
ReplyDeleteI listened to the contested 1952 Republican convention. Fairly amusing for a 16-year-old. Especially the bit about the Virgin Islands.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Republican delegate selection process is also fairly amusing. Thesee are very much like Democratic superdelegates except that they are the majority and they are pledged on the first round. In the Illinois Democratic primary, after I had voted for Bernie I scrolled down and voted for the delegates pledged to him.
Well, I'm just plain feeling sad about the results tonight. Mind you, I am not at all disappointed in Bernie Sanders. But I am quite disappointed in Americans this season. Alan, I do hope that California gets to decide for a change!
ReplyDeleteAlso disappointing was that my preferred candidate in IL-10 lost. Nancy Rotering was running against a former Congressman who had the support of the DCCC, but she had the support of Sen. Durbin, several local Democratic organizations, and both Chicago newspapers. Tammy Duckworth won the Senate primary contest, but there was never much doubt of that. And I found the victory email she sent quite inspiring. It didn't exactly support Bernie's campaign points, but left room for her to shirt far enough left to join his camp should he become our president.
ReplyDeleteBill, I'm sorry for you that Nancy Rotering didn't win. Was it a close race? Do you think the polling places were fair and handled well in your area?
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