Wednesday, August 31, 2005

Katrina's Aftermath

Posted by Andy Carvin, Program Director for the EDC Center for Media & Community in Newton, Massachusetts at 11:08 PM

Yesterday, while watching the torrent of news coverage related to the hurricane, I decided to create a blog that would be dedicated to the public's impressions about the hurricane. I grew up in Florida and lived through several hurricanes; last year alone, my parents had to evacuate three times to avoid getting caught in the eye of the storm. So even though my own experiences pale in comparison to walk gulf coast residents are going through, I felt I needed to do something to help others share information about the hurricane with as many people as possible.

http://katrina05.blogspot.com

The site is organized so that anyone who visits the site also has posting privileges—they can post text, photos, even podcasts over the phone. It's something I call a mobcast—a group of people coming together to post content over their mobile phones to the same blog, with a particular civic purpose in mind. People can post to the site without mobile phones, of course, but it's designed to accept voicemails as well. Last February, I set up a similar site for Christo's art project, The Gates. But the hurricane is so much more important and urgent, I wouldn't have forgiven myself if I hadn't created some kind of public blogging platform.


Read the rest here.

Also, Dancing Larry has this post over at Daily Kos:
Plaquemines Parish

I'm not at anger. Don't blame those who are for a second, but I'm just not there. I just keep thinking about the bayou people, and my feeling is one of sinking horror.

Click for the rest. And click here for an excellent diary by georgia10 about "how criminally unprepared our government was for this disaster."

112 comments:

  1. LOL!! Conrats, Teri, feels good, doesn't it.

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  2. Have a phone call to make, BBL

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  3. Did anyone watch NBC tonight? They had really good reports on the disaster areas. Also had an expert talk of the human problems with using up the land in development that would have acted as a barrier (the marshes I think she called it) and how the old leeves and such compounded the problem when they knew for years New Orleans was at high risk. Also people talking about the poverty stricken areas and people did not leave because they could not.

    Very depressing and sad.

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  4. Barbara!! I was wondering when you would make a showing, lol. How's it going?

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  5. CNN reporting first bus arriving in Houston. Amazing they got there so fast. Lots of kids.

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  6. Hi Barbara,

    I think it was my anger implanted firmly in my cheek and not my tongue!

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  7. "cHeRyL! said... 12:07 AM
    ... Very depressing and sad."

    And, I think when the water and reality soak in - and people become aware of how the local, state and federal governments gambled with people's lives (and ultimately lost) there will be hell to pay. I heard the phrase "criminally unprepared" tonight. That is so true.

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  8. Renee,
    Under 'links' could you add that Katrina blogspot site as a permanent link when you get the time? That way we can just click on it each day for updates. Thanks.

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  9. "I hate republicans said... 12:22 AM"

    I really don't see that happening. Both blogs seem to be doing a brisk trade in discussion.

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  10. BFA will ressurect itself. They had begun working on new blog (and other web site) software already when meetup.com decided to start charging fees and it changed their priorities around. Right now they are working hard to get DFALink up and running robustly. After that new blog software along with a totally revamped web site (incorporating the new DFALink features and more) will be the highest priority. Why they have allowed the non-software problem to fester as it has is beyond me however.

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  11. "Shénme tèshü said... 12:27 AM"

    I think they are trying to be painfully fair to everyone. There are established rules. HQ is enforcing the letter of the law. But, some people are very good at walking that very fine line between being completely obnoxious and *actually* breaking the rules.

    This blog serves as a "non-smoking section" for BFA. Once BFA has new software in place I wonder how necessary it will be to maintain the shadow in it's current incarnation.

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  12. Andrew, I'm not so sure. I hope, pray, you're right. Tara has a blind spot a mile wide where that one is concerned. The initial attempt by bloggers earlier this summer was flipped on its ear, and turned into: what's wrong with the other bloggers. . . . ? Let's make some rules. . . .

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  13. I don't know what the plan is for the new blog software but when I spoke with Tara about it at DemFest she said it would not be scoop but that it would be scoop-like in man of it's features... and would include an ignore button.

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  14. BTW, your blog is first on my blogroll.

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  15. Andrew ~~ she virtually told us, on blog, that it would not. That's about all many of us want. And she's been told that more than once. If it is to be, she could save herself a ****load of trouble if she'd just TELL us.

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  16. I think DFA has bigger issues that need addressing from a strategic standpoint. Still think they miss the mark and have from day one. Even their performance survey was lame...was geared to getting the answers they wanted with the silly rating system instead of opening it up to real feedback, and hence, the possiblity of real constructive criticism.

    I don't blame Tara for the blog issues...I don't think it is her role to be babysitter. I think the issues are at the executive level and all the things Rich, I and others have stated were issues from the campaign and then when DFA first started up...well, they are STILL issues. So, I think the toxic blog issues are just part of a bigger overall issue of lack of strategic direction and communication.

    I don't know if anyone they have on staff has organizational management experience for large orgs where strategy, grassroots organizging and fundraising are paramount. That's not so much a criticism of the backgrounds of the people because I am sure they all have lots of good experience in other areas...but it isn't the same as what is required for DFA to really be a major player. Most groups that I talk to having a lot of success are doing it completely on their own and just reporting back to DFA but don't really feel 'connected' to a larger whole. DFA as an org doesn't run efficiently or effectively. I was shocked when Tom admitted that is what they needed to do in one of his presentations at DemFest because I have been saying that for 2 years. The problem is, when will they start to address it? We get vague bullet points on the org instead of strategic objectives and tactical plans with measurements predefined to gauge our success or failures. That is the bare minimum of what you need to have a successful org. And constant communication is paramount.

    I like all the staff I met, and really like Tara (and thihk she busts her butt for probably not much pay) so my feelings are mixed on sticking around or just writing it off completely. The good intentions are there, but there needs to be more organizational efficiency and effectiveness or all the good intentions are wasted.

    There are other orgs I am involved with that seem more organized and grassroots driven and it seems to suit me better that way. I just have a love for all the great people I have met through DFA so I am always on the fence whether to stick it out or finally throw in the towel.

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  17. "Shénme tèshü said... 12:38 AM
    ...and would include an ignore button."

    Then this is different from the rating system she described before. I would much prefer the ignore button. I don't want to dictate what someone else gets to read. But, I *do* want to be able to throw up a wall against anyone who wants to blow smoke in my face and denigrate me for not tolerating it.

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  18. Barbara, you are running for PCO? We call them PCP's here. Good for you. Our LD Chair tried to get me to for my precinct because we haven't had anyone for at least 3 years but I cannot take going door to door in Tucson and the bulk of it is in the summer time when it is blistering. I am better at throwing parties, fundraising, etc.

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  19. Puddle... well I may be wrong. If I recall correctly she said that in the context of responding to me speaking in favor of a scoop like rating system. At the time it was all still conceptual so I don't know for sure what the end product will be.

    What I will say and what I will gladly say directly to Tom, Tara, and Luigi, is that some software solution needs to be put in place.

    They don't want to, and frankly I agree on this part, be in the business of policing the blog. They have more important things to do in my opinion. Consequently a software solution like an ignore button or a rating system is the way to go. If the problem is not solved then the blog will indeed die and DFA will suffer greatly along with it. I spend most of my time away from BFA because of comments like the "Joy of Killing via Precision Bombing." I cannot tolerate stuff like that for long without behaving in ways that I do not care to behave personally. I can ignore the rest of it for the most part but that stuff....

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  20. "Barbara*in*Seattle said...

    Tara has a blind spot a mile wide where that one is concerned.
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    Boy that's the truth! I think he has gone over the line many times, but it does no good to complain. "

    That's the problem. He walks up to the line. He walks along the line. But, he doesn't *technically* cross it. If HQ is going to be completely fair they can't have different rules for different people. And, they can't spend all their time interpreting posts according to vague rules and trying to gauge someone's intent.

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  21. Well... I'duv tossed his ass a long time ago. His "death to the enemies of the republic" comment would have been his last.

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  22. I don't have a damn thing to say. I am just happy to be able to peruse posts and not feel inclined to engage in a 'shouting' match with a incivil lout that has the manners of a rabid weasel...

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  23. Barbara,
    If we had the purpose of the blog clearly defined, for example, if it was for information sharing, community building, etc. than it would be clear when people violate and they would be booted. They actually do have specific guidelines for blog posts on BFA but they are not enforced and misogynistic remarks are the ones that seem to be tolerated the most. What can you expect from an org that has all men at the exec level? Another frustration.

    However, one thing I will say in Tara's defense, when she did try to enforce them there were at least a handful of regulars that jumped all over her and decided they liked the toxicity of the blog and that she was not to 'police' it. Kind of like our government...you get exactly what want when you don't push back on the crap that our 'leaders'do. Hell, if we cannot even deal with neocon bull on our own blog, how do we expect to fight it on the streets of America? And the whole diversity and free speech argument is bullshit. If you actually study the constitution and laws, there never has and never will be any such thing as totally free speech. All words and actions are judged against consequences and always will be. That is what is meant by 'civilized'...that we are not a free-for-all with no regard for the impact on others.

    I know from managing many different orgs that the moral of the employees, team, community, whatever is number 1 and you address issues immediately, and for the greater good of the org. I had to fire a guy that for 3 years was abusing everyone at the company and they all were too afraid to fire him. When I finally did, he threatened me physically. I just extended my hand and took his, shook it, and wished him good luck in his future career plans. He was so taken off guard that he left quitely after that. I also had gang members that would get in gang wars right on the job and again, no one would address it. So I would pull aside individuals and talk to them one on one about their futures and is this really what they want. It was so bad that they banned red and blue clothing, balloons, etc. from the building because they were afraid of rival gangs going at it. I could not believe what wimps the senior management team was to not just address each individual. They would not even call the cops when fighting broke out or drug deals happened at their desks.

    You have to address what is creating the toxicity in a team or it will take down the team. Not to mention, since becoming DFA *he* has not done one community event in his area or contributed anything positive whether on the blog or in real life. And if the people who claim to care about him really did, they would encourage him to get some help. When you have someone close in your life that is on an unhealthy and destructive path, you have a responsibility to point it out.

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  24. So, Barbara, you are a PCO? Maybe I knew that and spaced it. My brain has been forgetting so much lately. Like how to do things that I had an entire profession around for 5 years! I think it is my thyroid meds too low. Thyroid disease really screw up your memory and I used to have such an exceptional one.

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  25. cHeRyL! said...

    Took all of the words right out of my mouth...

    It's the camaraderie, stupid! Tend to the community first, the grassroots efforts will follow.

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  26. "I'm overdue for everything."

    CNN interviewer trying to get information out of some poor guy that arrived on the first bus at the Astrodome. He wasn't giving the guy that kind of answers he wanted and the guy started to break down and talked about how exhausted he was.

    "I'm overdue for everything."

    Food, sleep, shower, sitting down, etc.

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  27. Barbara,
    What meds do you take? Do you get extra T3? I think that is what I need because I have major conversion problems. I am mostly hypo too but swing to hyper every so often. Also have both Hashimotos and Graves, if you can believe it. My Mother had Graves then after getting RAI went hypo.

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  28. CNN now reporting that officials in Houston are questioning the people on the first bus because they apparently they don't believe it is one of the Superdome buses.

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  29. Barbara, I also belong to 4 thyroid groups through yahoo. One for Graves, one 2 for hypo and one for thyroid cancer. It seems a lot of people are like me and can't get on an even path with their thyroid issues.

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  30. Cytomel is T3 supplementation so yes, you are getting extra T3. I think that is what I need.
    I take 7-Keto for the moods. I used to be a very 'up' person but as my health worsened the past 5 years it got harder and harder. When I am in my bad moods I usually isolate myself, which isn't good either, but I don't want to expose anyone to that,lol.

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  31. Shénme tèshü said...

    CNN now reporting that officials in Houston are questioning the people on the first bus because they apparently they don't believe it is one of the Superdome buses.

    1:09 AM

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    What? If they are not the flood victims than who would they be? That just confused me???

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  32. CNN now reporting that officials are calling this a "renegade" bus. Apparently it and the people in it had nothing to do with the Superdome.

    Now... I can understand that they have plans to take care of the Superdome people and that they have to control the influx of refugees and where they go but...

    These people are refugees... not renegades. They need help. Give them help. The Superdome is not the only part of New Orleans nor is New Orleans the only part of Louisiana nor is Louisiana the only part of the south that is a disaster area this evening.

    These people need help.

    Give it to them.

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  33. So, they ARE flood victims but just not from the Superdome? Well, why would they turn them away??? I just really don't get how idiotic so much of these 'planners' are.

    And is the Superdome the only plan they have for these people? Can't they find additional areas, hotels willing to open up, Red Cross tents, etc? Ugh!

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  34. Cheryl... I really like and agree with your comments here. Have you spelled these thoughts out like this for Tom Hughes? DFA has stated that they are looking for people with input such as yours to get involved with them in a much more direct fashion. I was lucky enough to help out some with the DFALink stuff. I think they have figured out that they need to hear what we have to say and that they need to be responsive to us.

    It is also true that they are trying to run a big time operation with essentially a skeleton staff most of which are very young.

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  35. Barbara,
    Not to keep dwelling on this, but do you have any problems with hair loss? I have been losing handfuls since late 2001 and now have lost about 90% of the thickness with bald areas all over my head. Nothing seems to be helping to grow new hair or stop the shedding and I am taking natural supplements in addition to the meds.

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  36. The plan is to use the Astrodome in Houston to house the 25,000 or so that have been holed up in the Superdome in New Orleans.

    Obviously there are many thousands more refugees... and make no mistake we are talking refugees here... then the 25k at the Superdome but the plan is for the Astrodome to handle the Superdome crowd. I don't know what they have set as their limits for Astrodome capacity but yes, are there Red Cross tents? Other facilities being readied? There ought to be. There are roughly 100,000 left in New Orleans and more in the surrounding parishes. They ought to be able to easily and readily direct these people to proper other facility in order to save the Astrodome for the Superdome people.

    Boat people, dome people, refugees.

    My fear is that it is going to look like the Gaza Strip camps for the poor displaced refugees of New Orleans.

    This is not gonna be good. Not gonna be good at all.

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  37. "cHeRyL! said... 1:26 AM"

    If you are the Cheryl I met you can rest assured that I didn't notice any such thing. You even "loaned" Renee some hair! ;)

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  38. Cheryl? DemFest? Long dark hair? Hmmm... California someplace?

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  39. Shénme tèshü said...
    I have given feedback until I am blue in the face. Not only on the blog but sending direct email. Chris did not respond for 4 weeks to one I sent on strategy ideas, then when he met me at DemFest said he read it and would get back to me...it is Sept.1 tomorrow and still no response, lol. Tara is the only one I get responsiveness from. In fairness, I was always late with sending in my meetup reports so Chris was probably paying me back. ;)

    I probably have sent at least 50 email and had that many blog posts on strategy stuff but there comes a time where enough talk...I want action.

    I am one of those people who HATES meetings because nothing ever gets done and people just go back and forth. I am always about the purpose and the end result. Whenever my staff would want to do something or was spending a lot of time in an area, the first question I would ask is "how does that tie into our strategic objectives?", If it didn't, they knew to drop it. Pretty soon I didn't have to ask anymore because they all knew to ask themselves it before they started the task.

    And guess what? I had entry level employees making $10.00 and hour who were more strategic than the CEO of the company. When he had a Q & A with them, he was blown away by how much they knew about the companies financials and overall problems and he could not even answer many of their questions. They knew more about the big picture as well as the tactical issues than he did. He said they asked tougher questions than the shareholders.

    At that point, I knew it was time for me to leave, lol. We were looking to someone to provide direction for us who was not capable of it.

    Never underestimate what people can achieve given the information and training regardless of where they are on the org chart. I had a lot of 'leaders' who worked for me and I learned from them all the time and they challenged me to be a lot better at my job because I felt responsible to them.

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  40. Demetrius, I actually had lost about 85% when you saw me, however, it was mostly on top and font and the way I wore my hair you couldn't tell. The back is the only place I have hair now. Coupled with the fact in Austin the humidity was so high my hair fluffed up in volume so it DID look thick...and boy was I happy!!!

    I am planning on ordering hair extensions and eventually pull out my wigs if it continues at this rate. Sometime I will send you and Renee a pic of how it used to look. You will die when you see how thick it used to be.

    By the way, Demetrius, are any of your brothers single? ;)

    I saw the pics of you all at the wedding and you have a very good looking family.

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  41. The people on the first bus are not being turned away and the Red Cross is caring for them now. A couple more buses have arrived now.

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  42. Shénme tèshü said...

    Cheryl? DemFest? Long dark hair? Hmmm... California someplace?

    Long red hair from Arizona. We chatted for awhile and I took your pic. If you are David that is??

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  43. I've never been a big fan of meetings either but there are times when they are necessary. I absolutely loath poorly run meetings, the vast majority of them in other words, that get lost in the weeds. Meetings need an agenda and a purpose, an objective as you say, and they need someone running them that knows how to keep them on track.

    I think part of DFA's problem is that we are so wide spread and we do so much of our meeting online. It is tough to organize the groups even just on my own state where we have several strong and active groups with good leaders that get along... simply because we are at such a distance from each other.

    It would be good to have meetings around the country like they are starting to have with the state conference meetings but also more focused one's dealing with the blog, or meetup agenda's, or over all strategic direction and objectives.

    I think Tom agrees with that general idea but the logistics of such a thing are difficult to work out.

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  44. Or is this Andrew?

    The name has thrown me.

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  45. Andrew, I think we met very briefly but we didn't have a chance to talk really. Maybe at next year's Demfest.

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  46. My blog and blog name here had not been intended for poltical purposes (but obviously that has sort of taken over my life) so when I set it up I set up a pseudonym that applied to it's original more spiritual purpose.

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  47. "cHeRyL! said... 1:43 AM

    Demetrius, I actually had lost about 85% when you saw me, ...

    By the way, Demetrius, are any of your brothers single? ;)"

    I never would have guessed that. You wear it very well! And, no. My last single brother was just committed to the institution ...of marriage. ;) All my brother are older than me anyway, except 1. And, *I'm* officially middle-aged now. :( Renee has a younger brother, though. He's single, has a nice condo, a weird sense of humor and is generally a pretty cool guy... He even brews his own beer.

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  48. I think I thought you were Dave because he uses his full name with middle initial on the blog too and I was mentally switching the two, lol.

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  49. Lol, Demetrius. Where does Renee's brother live?

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  50. Yupper. Neither one of us is exactly small either.

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  51. This blog is so peaceful it actually feels strange and my blood pressure isn't rising. I am actually enjoying blogging again since Renee set this up. The past few months I was only doing the cfd list because I was too turned off by all the issues of the other.

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  52. Barbara, thanks for the doc info. If I don't have a breakthrough in a positive direction with my health by December I will probably travel to see someone so I wrote down his info and will keep that as a backup.

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  53. I gotta go to bed. Nite folks

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  54. "cHeRyL! said...

    Lol, Demetrius. Where does Renee's brother live?

    1:57 AM"

    Chicago.

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  55. "cHeRyL! said...

    This blog is so peaceful it actually feels strange..."

    It is weird. I have a window open to BFA and sBFA comments. I'm trying to follow both. (although I really should be getting to bed) Shifting gears is tricky. It's like driving into Chicago up I-65 thru Indiana. You *know* when you've crossed the border into Chicago. The whole vibe of traffic changes. If you don't shift into "Chicago Driving Mode" you will quickly find yourself almost forced off the road. BFA is kind of like that. You have to get your shield up against the onslaught of obnoxiousness you *know* is gonna hit you. This space is more like driving around Columbus. A lot more relaxed and enjoyable.

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  56. Demetrius,
    Does my name show up as cHeRyL! or cheryl!? On my computer it shows up as 'cheryl!' but I noticed when you crossed referenced my post it came up as cHeRyL! and I wasn't sure if you manually entered it or it looks that way to the rest of you?

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  57. "cHeRyL! said...

    Demetrius,
    Does my name show up as cHeRyL! or cheryl!?"

    I copied and pasted this from your post. I think the highlighted name strips out case and font. But, when you paste it as text it is restored.

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  58. Well... I'd love to stay up. But, The kids start their school day crazy early. So *my* day has to start crazy early. I'm already hours behind on the trip to Slumberton.

    'Night All!

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  59. Well, I am off to bed too. Nite, Demetrius.

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  60. I've been posting away on the other blog. And watching CNN. It just seems to be getting worse.

    Bush is gonna pay for this.

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  61. Am I alone here too? Where is everybody?

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  62. Okay ~~ talked Edwin through registration, and he actually left a comment. Now it's not here.

    Did anybody see it?

    Maybe we should call the the Twighlight Zone Blog, lol!

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  63. puddle,it looks like we're the only ones who can post.

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  64. CNN is reporting in many places there are no signs of FEMA or the Red Cross.

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  65. Grin. Or everyone else just wore themselves out doing two blogs, lol!

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  66. Did you see my new blog? I am having sooooooo much fun with it! Click my name.

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  67. Btw, Edwin said the problem he had registering had to do with not seeing the full screen. When he widened it, he could see the continue button. (He has a Mac, too)

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  68. puddle,LOL.

    Hi, Edwin! We MAC users have to stick together cuz those PC hogs are taking over.

    This must be the shadow shadow shadow blog. Only puddle and mac users can post.

    In Atlanta, gas is as high as $5.00.
    Eat that,you SUV's. But what about the poor?

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  69. puddle, come on over to the other place. Nobody there either.

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  70. Nah, you never can tell when the bulldog will jump on and try n tear your heart out. Rather keep the numbers up here, lol!!

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  71. I got distracted by a Daily Kos diary on my old hometown area, and then went and built a web page with the pictures I had from there, so I'm just now checking in here.

    Hello to anyone still awake!

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  72. LOL, puddle! I just checked my email and see that you sent me a link to Dancing Larry's diary.

    Thanks!

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  73. One of the problems is that even though people may have escaped and be okay where they are, they have no way to communicate that information.

    I hope for the best for your friends, Patricia.

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  74. If anyone is interested, I set up a page at my website that shows some aerial views of my old hometown, Buras, that was the landing point for Hurricane Katrina.

    Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana

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  75. Patricia ♥s And yes I know that's not enough. Prayers.

    jc, those pics are bringing back my own memories of the floods on the Russian River in January 95. . . .

    Mama's mad!

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  76. be okay = may be okay

    Now, I'm sounding Cajun! ;-)

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  77. puddle,

    It's bringing back memories for me, too. I've shed a lot of tears in the last day or two.

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  78. I heard Texas Governor Rick Perry on CNN. While his overall message was compassionate, he couldn't help but get in a couple of Republican talking points, like offering a "hand up rather than a handout."

    He also mentioned "biblical proportions" so I'm sure the wrath of God is involved here somewhere, if they can just figure out how to blame the Liberals.

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  79. Oh, and BTW ... still going ... ;-)

    Results 1 - 30 of about 20,100 for cindy-sheehan

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  80. 21) Blog for America 33746 visits/day (1257)

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  81. If anyone is trying to identify homes in a particular area, NOAA has released several high-resolution aerial photos for Mississipi - click

    I'll keep watching that site - I'm sure there are more to come.

    http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2495.htm

    NOAA Mississippi Aerial Photos

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  82. Well, I'm flattered to find a link to the Hannah Blog.

    Just heard the morning news that the spouse turned on and George the Lesser saying "I'm confident...that you'll get your lives back together."

    Ugh!!!!!!

    Hannah

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  83. Link to Digital Globe's high resolution Katrina Gallery (including New Orleans)

    http://www.digitalglobe.com/katrina_gallery.html

    Katrina Gallery

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  84. Monica, I hope some day you tell us the story of the Hannah/Monica relationship, LOL!

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  85. We always called them "Flying Monkey Republicans". 'Away! My Pretties!!!'

    "Pirro Appeals to Broken Glass Republicans

    By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 13 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON - Attacking Sen.
    Hillary Rodham Clinton as a climber focused on becoming president might not win Jeanine Pirro an election, but it could whip the country's Republicans into a fundraising frenzy as they try to knock off the Democrats' biggest star.
    ...
    But, analysts say, the notion still enrages so-called broken glass Republicans, a term coined in 2000 to describe those supposedly so intent on wiping out any vestiges of the Clinton administration that they would be willing to do anything, including walk over broken glass."
    (more)
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_el_se/pirro_s_appeal;_ylt=AiB_5eT6Pc5zTyz.7bSH4i.yFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

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  86. listener, if you come on the thread today, I apologize about always starting your name with a capital 'L' but will problably continue to make the mistake. I often times type out of habit and you always start a paragraph or letter with a capital so that is why I keep erring. Sorry!

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  87. puddle said...

    21) Blog for America 33746 visits/day (1257)

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