Tuesday, February 11, 2020

🌟 NEW HAMPSHIRE! 🌟

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  1. Back from San Francisco; left during the evening rush hour, but I've seen far worse traffic. From what folks said on the previous thread it seems that the Iowa Dems are bound and determined to prove that they can't be trusted to run a caucus. This is the second time in a row that they messed up, and the Iowa GOP messed up three elections ago, as memory serves me. I don't think they could handle ranked choice voting, either. It's high time their special privilege was revoked. BTW, I read that Illinois is by many measures the most average state in the nation.

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    1. If Illinois opts to replace Iowa, declaring themselves “the most average state in the nation”, then I think perhaps they are. 😉

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    2. I hadn't heard that about Illinois. But it's true that we are a very diverse state. We have the nation's third largest city, with the metro area spilling over into Indiana and Wisconsin, plus the suburbs of another large city. But there are also huge swaths of farmland one of the few places in the country where coal is still almost king. There are large numbers of African-Americans in the Chicago area and East St. Louis, with many Latinx, almost evenly split between Mexican-Americans and Puerto Ricans, in Chicago.

      But I don't see why Iowa couldn't handle ranked-choice voting. If the all-volunteer Hugo award administrators can handle it, why couldn't Iowa? Even if it was left to the parties.

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    3. Well, not to be totally snooty and obnoxious, but Science Fiction writers, readers and fans are a darn sight smarter than most people.

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  2. NH’s midnight vote included three towns, and Klobuchar garnered the most votes.

    In Dixville Notch itself...

    “Five voters in Dixville Notch showed up to make their selection at midnight. Two Democrats voted for Bloomberg, one for Buttigieg and one for Sanders. The sole Republican voter also wrote in Bloomberg.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/politics/dixville-notch-new-hampshire-primary/index.html

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  3. In the Baptismal Covenant we are asked: "Will you strive for justice and peace among all people, and respect the dignity of every human being?" In a life dedicated to respecting and restoring dignity to others, we cannot help but be political, for human dignity is inseparable from adequate food, shelter, clean water, medical care, education, and respect, regardless of gender, orientation, race, religion or country of origin. And all of these are about the use, or abuse, of power.

    -Br. James Koester
    Society of Saint John the Evangelist

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  4. Shall we have a Watch Party tonight while the NH results come in? Who will be around?

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    1. I don't know about a watch party, but will be checking in from time to time. The reports should start to come in a little less than an hour from now. No matter what the results, they should be interesting.

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  5. Just looking at pictures of Bernie makes me smile. I will never fathom why some people insist on portraying him as grumpy and dour. As said before, he has always struck me as quite charming, though not in a slick way. Then again, the DNC, their Clintonistas and centrists are profoundly threatened by Bernie. Unfortunately, it's human nature to demonize that which threatens us.

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    1. I would differ only with respect to calling proto-Republicans in the Democratic Party "centrists."

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  6. Listener, your last comment on the last thread, that they blew up tribal burial grounds for the Wall and never so much as informed the tribes made me ill. Trump and those around him are not human! They certainly do not have souls!

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    1. Personally I think the tribe would be justified in digging up his parents' graves and destroying their headstones. Turnabout is fair play.

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  7. Have to go watch the 2002 Disney flick Treasure Planet for a quiz I've been assigned to write on it. I'll be interested to see Stevenson's tale given a Science Fiction twist.

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  8. Is Georgia in play this year? [Click] Could be.

    Bloomberg and Trump are two sides of the same sinister coin [Click]

    Pete Buttigieg is the embodiment of white privilege – and black voters know it [Click]

    Reverend William Barber: Trump's greatest vulnerability is the economy – just ask poor Americans [Click]

    Top Trump Adviser Says U.K. Slips Behind EU in Trade Priorities [Click] Why, imagine that!

    Inside Bernie’s Powerful Political Machine [Click] And that’s just in New Hampshire.

    Sanders Overtakes Biden In Another National Poll
    February 11, 2020 By Taegan Goddard
    A new Monmouth poll finds Bernie Sanders leading the Democratic presidential race nationwide with 26%, followed by Joe Biden at 16%, Elizabeth Warren at 13%, Pete Buttigieg at 13%, Mike Bloomberg at 11% and Amy Klobuchar at 6%.
    Said pollster Patrick Murray: “Iowa has had a significant impact on the race, especially for Biden, whose support was always soft and based largely on the perception of electability.”
    Also interesting: “Democratic voters in states that hold nominating contests this month through Super Tuesday spread their support across a number of candidates – 21% Sanders, 16% Warren, 14% Biden, 13% Bloomberg, 11% Buttigieg, 7% Klobuchar, and 6% Yang. In states that vote after Super Tuesday, 30% back Sanders, 18% Biden, 14% Buttigieg, 11% Warren, 9% Bloomberg, 5% Klobuchar, and 3% Yang.”



    Purple sands [Click]

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    1. Whoo hoo!! Sanders pulled ahead nationwide!!

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    2. I guess that's it for Stacey Abrams., huh, Alan? *sigh* So, who's Bernie gonna pick for Veep?

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    3. Did I miss something, Cat?

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  9. A few results starting to trickle in from New Hampster. I think I shall take a shower and check back aftewards.

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  10. Bernie is ahead with more than 28%!
    14% of the vote has been counted. The polls have just closed!

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    1. Gotta hand it to them Hampsters; they evidently know how to count. Could that be because they don't produce too much corn ethanol? (OK, poor joke.)

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    2. Well that was corny, Alan. LOL! I could also say something about its ethanol level. 😆

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  11. Andrew Yang is bowing out. He will be speaking (CNN) in 15 minutes.

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  12. With 15% of votes counted in NH:

    Sanders 29.2%
    Buttigieg 22.4%
    Klobuchar 19.4%
    Warren 11.5%
    Biden 8%
    Yang 3%
    Gabbard 2.3%
    Steyer 2.7%
    Patrick 0.4%
    Bennet 0.3%

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    1. I suppose that Klobuchar won over quite a few former Biden supporters. I am disappointed that Warren isn't doing better, but that's the way it goes. I can't see Buttigieg or Klobuchar sustaining such support for very long.

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    2. Yes, I'd say Bernie is the only rock solid candidate so far, actually, because he already has people in all 50 states and the territories. And all on grassroots money. He is doing very well with the blue collar workers.

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  13. With 18% of votes counted in NH:

    Sanders 28%
    Buttigieg 23%
    Klobuchar 19%
    Warren 11%

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  14. 27% reporting:

    Sanders 28%
    Buttigieg 23%
    Klobuchar 20%
    Waren 10%

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  15. 47% reporting:

    Sanders 27.6%
    Buttigieg 23.4%
    Klobuchar 19.5%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.6%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  16. 48% reporting and the %s are the same as at 47%.

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  17. 49% reporting:

    Sanders 27.3%
    Buttigieg 23.5%
    Klobuchar 19.6%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.6%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.2%
    Yang 2.9%

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  18. 50% reporting:

    Sanders 27.4%
    Buttigieg 23.5%
    Klobuchar 19.6%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.6%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  19. 52% reporting:

    Sanders 27.1%
    Buttigieg 23.6%
    Klobuchar 19.7%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%

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  20. 53% reporting:

    Sanders 27.1%
    Buttigieg 23.6%
    Klobuchar 19.7%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  21. 54% reporting:

    Sanders 27.0%
    Buttigieg 23.7%
    Klobuchar 19.7%
    Warren 9.3%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  22. I was reading the other day that there have been candidates who took 4th place in NH but won the nomination; but none of them were elected President.

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    1. Nice looking NH county map, Alan!

      Also, interesting factoid about nominees vs winners!

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  23. 59% reporting:

    Sanders 26.7%
    Buttigieg 23.8%
    Klobuchar 19.9%
    Warren 9.3%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  24. I don't like the way the numbers are trending.

    Hoping the big towns coming in later will set things to rights.

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  25. 60% reporting. Same numbers as 59%

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  26. 64% reporting:

    Sanders 26.4%
    Buttigieg 23.9%
    Klobuchar 20.1%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%?
    Yang 2.8%?

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  27. 64% reporting:

    Sanders 26.3%
    Buttigieg 23.9%
    Klobuchar 20.0%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 3.3%?
    Yang 2.8%?

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  28. (CNN has stopped updating and showing Gabbard's and Yang's numbers, for some reason.)

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  29. OOPS! That last list was 65%!!

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  30. 66% reporting:

    Sanders 26.4%
    Buttigieg 23.9%
    Klobuchar 20.0%
    Warren 9.3%
    Biden 8.5%

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    1. What concerns me is that the combined totals for Butigieg, Klobuchar, and Biden exceed 50%.

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  31. I simply cannot understand why Buttigieg has as much support as he does. He's young, he's corporate and apparently he's racist or has no problem with racism. He has too much coporate support to be for the people. He would be on their leash.

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    1. I suspect that Establishment Dem types are turning to Buttigieg and Klobuchar as they see Biden going down for the count (pun fully intended).

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    2. It does seem that Buttigieg and Klobuchar are appealing to the centrists in some way. We *really* need to have more than two parties!

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  32. 69% reporting:

    Sanders 26.1%
    Buttigieg 24.0%
    Klobuchar 20.0%
    Warren 9.3%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.7%
    Gab bard 23.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  33. Hang in there, Bernie lovers!

    Derry NH and the college towns of Hanover and Durham have yet to report in, and are likely to go for Bernie. We'll see.


    Fun Fact: Our first apartment when we got married was in Durham, and many years later we lived near Hanover.

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  34. 70% reporting:

    Sanders 26.0%
    Buttigieg 24.2%
    Klobuchar 20.1%
    Warren 9.3%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.6%
    Gabbard 23.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  35. 71% reporting, same numbers.

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  36. I enjoyed Treasure Planet, except possibly for the scene in which the spacecraft rode the winds of a supernova. My current backup book, a reread for nights when I'm too tired to concentrate on anything much but need something to listen to, is The Exploding Suns: Secrets of the Supernovas by Isaac Asimov. So, I know no spacecraft could do what the spacecraft in the movie did, especially as the supernova collapsed into a black hole before our very eyes and the hapless first officer was lost overboard into it. *sigh* Sometimes it doesn't pay to know too much. But it was a good movie overall. Silver was a rogue, of course, but one with a heart of gold in the end.

    It's been, let's see, must be almost thirty years since I last read The Confessions of St. Augustine. Remember especially loving Books XI through XIII, dealing with God and eternity. Looking forward to rereading. It's just that I go through periods of being unable to concentrate on serious books. They always pass, thankfully. I hope to get back to St. Augustine later this week. But I do need to read up as much as possible on my movie and watch it again to write the quiz. Maybe I'll take up The Confessions again over the weekend.

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    1. Granted that it is just a short story, but I have had a yen to read Robert Bloch's That Hellbound Train. I just now went looking for the anthology in which it resides, and found it in the back set of books on a sci/fi-fantasy shelf.

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  37. I finally got my hands on a hard copy of "A Very Stable Genius". It must be selling really well because both bookstores I go to sold out of it quickly and had to re-order.

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  38. Dang! Hanover went for Buttigieg. I hadn't expected that. Waiting on Durham.

    82% reporting:

    Sanders 26.0%
    Buttigieg 24.3%
    Klobuchar 19.9%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.5%
    Gabbard 23.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  39. Buttigieg is speaking.

    Must mean he thinks Bernie will win it and speak last.

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  40. 84% reporting:

    Sanders 25.9%
    Buttigieg 24.3%
    Klobuchar 19.9%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.5%
    Steyer 3.5%
    Gabbard 23.3%
    Yang 2.8%

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  41. CBS just called it for Bernie.

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    1. Sounds good, though the numbers are not what I'd prefer.

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  42. Democrats are reaching farmers with an exciting message: green agriculture [Click] “Every leading Democratic candidate supports a form of conservation that can reduce greenhouse gases and create jobs in rural America.”

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  43. 87% reporting:

    Sanders 26.0%
    Buttigieg 24.3%
    Klobuchar 19.9%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.4%
    Steyer 3.5%
    Gabbard 3.2%
    Yang 2.8%

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  44. 88% reporting:

    Sanders 26.0%
    Buttigieg 24.3%
    Klobuchar 19.8%
    Warren 9.4%
    Biden 8.4%
    Steyer 3.5%
    Gabbard 3.2%
    Yang 2.8%

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  45. Bernie is currently 4,306 votes ahead.

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  46. With 90% of the vote in, CNN just called it for Bernie.

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    1. Good.

      No doubt, by morning the MSM will have their daggers sharpened and their venom brewed, explaining to gullible folks like my parents, via Fox News for him and MSNBC for her, how evil Sanders is and how he can't possibly win any more states and, even if he does, that he must not be allowed to earn the Democratic nomination. Anyone but Bernie!

      BTW I wonder how long Bloomberg will remain flavor du jour, and when they'll move on to a new darling. One shudders to think who that might be.

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  47. We finally got our ballots done tonight. My sister voted for Biden. "Ya know, good ol' Joe." I'm ashamed to be related to someone so totally clueless!

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    1. Hey, at least she voted!! That matters. I just wish everyone would.

      But, yeah.

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  48. Cat--in re Stacey Abrams: I don't see why the New Hampshire results would have any effect on her at all; she wasn't running for President. Young, female, African-American, legislative experience, and known for her get-out-the-vote campaigns; all good. IMO

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    1. Alan, she was mentioned in that article on Bloomberg as taking his money for her GOTV efforts, remember? The article said she hasn't endorsed anyone yet, but the article writer clearly got the screaming mimis from her having even such a brush with Bloomberg and his money and, frankly, so do I.

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  49. News reports on NH primary seem to have stopped at 85% reporting.

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  50. (1) Cat and Alan...what happened about Stacey Abrams??

    (2) CNN is up to 97% and still counting.

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    1. 97% reporting:

      Sanders 25.9%
      Buttigieg 24.4%
      Klobuchar 19.8%
      Warren 9.3%
      Biden 8.4%
      Steyer 3.6%

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    2. Nothing happened to Abrams that I know of, but Cat asked if she was now out of the question as VP.

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