You were spared much, then, as they are struggling at the moment. But I can attest that the Methodist clergy I know (at least 10) are all salt of the Earth, good folks. (And not a Republican or fundy amongst them.)
My ancestor who settled in western Ontario was a Weslyan Methodist, and on all the evidence a very good man. Among the things for which he was particularly noted, he was the first farmer in the township to not furnish whiskey for the men who built his barn; it is not recorded if the barn turned out straighter than others. . .
Yeah, Alan. I thought of that. Apparently our hack taught others what to do next time. Our hack happened between Wil being sent to a specialist due to heart symptoms and actually getting to see that specialist and get his surgery. It slowed everything down by 5 weeks while his artery was 99% blocked. Ransomware can take lives...!
Gotta say...that photo looks like it's taking place in a dorm. Check out the, um, artwork. Any chance it was staged to make the US and Europe think Russia had done something? I note that no one is being extradited. "Believe us, we got them. No problem now."
Our eldest kids were in a suite, consisting of 5 bedrooms, a common room and a kitchenette. My point is that the decor does not loosen lush at all. Rather incongruous with hackers making big bucks.
I'm an even older fossil, and my memory is the same. But what I hear from some of my alma matrae is that dorms with coed suites are now common.
That said, I'm not sure a hacker would want a particularly lush life style. It's all about power. Fancy cars may be a better way to display that. And much of the money seems to be just sitting there as undeposited bills.
Oh, I forgot to mention that each suite also included 2 full baths. The bedrooms included 2 singles, 2 doubles and one triple. But it wasn't just a nice thing the university provided for the students. The suites were in the Living and Learning Center; to garner a coveted room there, each suite had to have a theme and a purpose. Eldest two sons were in the TaeKwonDo suite. Daughter cofounded the Music suite. In fact, she co-created the concept while visiting her elder brother and some friends on campus, while she was still in high school. She literally organised the group before she was a matriculated student! As a result of being one of the co-leaders of the suite, she got to have one of the singles...even in her Freshman year. Score! The group consisted of musicians who performed together and raised funds for charities. Pretty great, really. Typically, the suites were not co-ed. That was funny, too. The time Wil had to drop off something for PhD*Son (when he was an undergrad), he went into the boys' suite and it was quite a mess. He left a large note on the door of our son's room (a single) that read: "Looks like the skunks got into the trash again." LOL! As he left that suite, the door to the girls' suite across the hall opened. He noticed it was spotless, red couch, paintings on the wall, and a pristine clean fishtank! LOL!
‘From prosecco Tuesdays to thank-you tipples, No. 10 has a serious drink problem’ [Click] “The party scandal engulfing Boris Johnson has exposed the culture of drinking in Whitehall, where alcohol is part of daily routine.” The Brits in general seem notably bibulous. Gross public drunkenness is treated as a medical problem rather than a legal one— falling down drunks are taken away by ambulance to the hospital emergency room, rather than by black maria to the drunk tank. I am reminded of the Mogul emperor who hired English gunners, and provided them with alcohol (arrack, I suppose). When his advisors questioned this, because of him being a Muslim ruler, he replied that alcohol was their natural element; to deny it to them would be like denying water to a fish.
Alcoholism *IS* a medical problem, not a crime in itself. There does seem to be a need for something more long lasting than a trip to Emergency, though.
Well, allowing them to marinate in their own vomit *ought* to discourage them. Believe me, the aroma emanating from a drunk tank does offend one's gentler senses.
"California Penal Code 647f PC makes public intoxication a crime when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, in a public place, to the point of being unable to care for your safety or that of others.This offense is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1000.00. This statute is one of several California laws on disorderly conduct." No risk of being flogged or caned, though. In times past a "massage" by the police might suffice, but that is certainly frowned upon these days.
It seems my recollection of Macbeth is somewhat faulty:
DUNCAN
This castle hath a pleasant seat; the air Nimbly and sweetly recommends itself Unto our gentle senses.
BANQUO
This guest of summer, The temple-haunting martlet, does approve, By his loved mansionry, that the heaven's breath Smells wooingly here: no jutty, frieze, Buttress, nor coign of vantage, but this bird Hath made his pendent bed and procreant cradle: Where they most breed and haunt, I have observed, The air is delicate.
The truth is that there are MANY alcoholics whose worst crime is inability to resist drinking. It comes with its own punishments. We have a loved one who is losing his marriage to it...even though he has been able to stay sober a long time. Having an addiction means it's extremely hard to have all the control you need. It's an illness and needs to be addressed that way. It's not laziness or debauchery, it's genetic weakness. A person needs a LOT of support to beat it.
I think it helps to separate the alcoholism (illness) from any dangerous action that someone may take when drunk (crime). There do need to be consequences for a crime. But there also needs to be medical attention for the illness.
Heh, I've loved the original since I first heard it--If I hadn't already been a Quaker, I might have ended up a Methodist. . . . ♥
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DeleteYou were spared much, then, as they are struggling at the moment. But I can attest that the Methodist clergy I know (at least 10) are all salt of the Earth, good folks. (And not a Republican or fundy amongst them.)
My ancestor who settled in western Ontario was a Weslyan Methodist, and on all the evidence a very good man. Among the things for which he was particularly noted, he was the first farmer in the township to not furnish whiskey for the men who built his barn; it is not recorded if the barn turned out straighter than others. . .
DeleteYes, the Wesleyan Methodists are the strict sort, much like Baptists,
Deletewhereas United Methodists are fairly Liberal as well as liturgically oriented.
How quick thinking stopped a ransomware attack from crippling a Florida hospital [Click] Makes mention of an attack on the University of Vermont in 2020.
ReplyDeleteREvil ransomware gang arrested in Russia [Click]
DeleteYeah, Alan. I thought of that. Apparently our hack taught others what to do next time. Our hack happened between Wil being sent to a specialist due to heart symptoms and actually getting to see that specialist and get his surgery. It slowed everything down by 5 weeks while his artery was 99% blocked. Ransomware can take lives...!
DeleteGotta say...that photo looks like it's taking place in a dorm. Check out the, um, artwork. Any chance it was staged to make the US and Europe think Russia had done something? I note that no one is being extradited.
Delete"Believe us, we got them. No problem now."
Maybe dorm rooms look different in Vermont than they do out here.
DeleteOur eldest kids were in a suite, consisting of 5 bedrooms, a common room and a kitchenette.
DeleteMy point is that the decor does not loosen lush at all. Rather incongruous with hackers making big bucks.
* loosen = look
DeleteMy recollection of dormitories involves a shared bathroom down the hall to accommodate thirty or forty people at a time; but I am admittedly a fossil.
DeleteI'm an even older fossil, and my memory is the same. But what I hear from some of my alma matrae is that dorms with coed suites are now common.
DeleteThat said, I'm not sure a hacker would want a particularly lush life style. It's all about power. Fancy cars may be a better way to display that. And much of the money seems to be just sitting there as undeposited bills.
Oh, I forgot to mention that each suite also included 2 full baths. The bedrooms included 2 singles, 2 doubles and one triple. But it wasn't just a nice thing the university provided for the students. The suites were in the Living and Learning Center; to garner a coveted room there, each suite had to have a theme and a purpose. Eldest two sons were in the TaeKwonDo suite. Daughter cofounded the Music suite. In fact, she co-created the concept while visiting her elder brother and some friends on campus, while she was still in high school. She literally organised the group before she was a matriculated student! As a result of being one of the co-leaders of the suite, she got to have one of the singles...even in her Freshman year. Score!
DeleteThe group consisted of musicians who performed together and raised funds for charities. Pretty great, really.
Typically, the suites were not co-ed. That was funny, too. The time Wil had to drop off something for PhD*Son (when he was an undergrad), he went into the boys' suite and it was quite a mess. He left a large note on the door of our son's room (a single) that read: "Looks like the skunks got into the trash again." LOL! As he left that suite, the door to the girls' suite across the hall opened. He noticed it was spotless, red couch, paintings on the wall, and a pristine clean fishtank! LOL!
To each their own; I should be most pleased not to have to put up with that sort of stuff as part of the rent. I always lived off campus.
DeleteSecond gentleman Emhoff acts as public link to White House [Click]
ReplyDelete‘From prosecco Tuesdays to thank-you tipples, No. 10 has a serious drink problem’ [Click] “The party scandal engulfing Boris Johnson has exposed the culture of drinking in Whitehall, where alcohol is part of daily routine.” The Brits in general seem notably bibulous. Gross public drunkenness is treated as a medical problem rather than a legal one— falling down drunks are taken away by ambulance to the hospital emergency room, rather than by black maria to the drunk tank. I am reminded of the Mogul emperor who hired English gunners, and provided them with alcohol (arrack, I suppose). When his advisors questioned this, because of him being a Muslim ruler, he replied that alcohol was their natural element; to deny it to them would be like denying water to a fish.
ReplyDeleteAlcoholism *IS* a medical problem, not a crime in itself. There does seem to be a need for something more long lasting than a trip to Emergency, though.
DeleteWell, allowing them to marinate in their own vomit *ought* to discourage them. Believe me, the aroma emanating from a drunk tank does offend one's gentler senses.
Delete"California Penal Code 647f PC makes public intoxication a crime when you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, in a public place, to the point of being unable to care for your safety or that of others.This offense is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $1000.00. This statute is one of several California laws on disorderly conduct." No risk of being flogged or caned, though. In times past a "massage" by the police might suffice, but that is certainly frowned upon these days.
It seems my recollection of Macbeth is somewhat faulty:
DeleteDUNCAN
This castle hath a pleasant seat; the air
Nimbly and sweetly recommends itself
Unto our gentle senses.
BANQUO
This guest of summer,
The temple-haunting martlet, does approve,
By his loved mansionry, that the heaven's breath
Smells wooingly here: no jutty, frieze,
Buttress, nor coign of vantage, but this bird
Hath made his pendent bed and procreant cradle:
Where they most breed and haunt, I have observed,
The air is delicate.
The truth is that there are MANY alcoholics whose worst crime is inability to resist drinking. It comes with its own punishments. We have a loved one who is losing his marriage to it...even though he has been able to stay sober a long time. Having an addiction means it's extremely hard to have all the control you need. It's an illness and needs to be addressed that way. It's not laziness or debauchery, it's genetic weakness. A person needs a LOT of support to beat it.
DeleteI think it helps to separate the alcoholism (illness) from any dangerous action that someone may take when drunk (crime). There do need to be consequences for a crime. But there also needs to be medical attention for the illness.
DeleteBut I do not allow that a voluntarily intoxicated person should be able to displace an ER patient. That said, we did have our "frequent fliers."
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