Hey, could everyone see the Wreath photo from yesterday and can everyone see that sunset photo for today? Strangely, I cannot see these past two days' photos here, but I can see them when I get into Blogger where I post them from. If they stay messed up I'll work on it Wednesday.
I saw the wreath yesterday and today (had to ask the Internet what an "Advent wreath" was, though); the twilight photo I couldn't see earlier (maybe just because I didn't give it enough time to load), but can now.
Need to vent. Son and DIL went on a 4 day trip to IL for business. Left 17 y.o daughter and 13 y.o. son home alone in another state. By the time I found out it was too late to intervene. Daughter has NPD and the only reason she hasn't been officially diagnosed is because they can't before 18.
Skimming the lowlife highlights. She had a massive party at the house. G'son locked himself in his bedroom. About 30 kids, some known by name to the local police, felony stuff. Boy in front yard beaten by 5 and is now in hospital. In house furniture broken, electronics stolen, very bad scene, neighbors understandably furious. NPD daughter is so self-involved she said "Well, police didn't do anything, so no big deal". She doesn't even *begin* to grasp the gravity of what happened. I didn't let my son off the hook. Told him that he knows very well what she is and pretending she'll do the right thing was foolish, and he endangered his son by leaving him with a girl with no boundaries and less sense.
Son has completely *other* REALLY BAD STUFF going on in his life and this added to it hasn't helped at all. Right now daughter has been staying with friends since Sunday. Son and DIL going to court to file a PINS petition.
I'm so sorry he has to go through this but there's nothing at all I - or anyone else - can really do to help.
Trying not to give any identifying info because everything stays on the internet forever. But this sh-t really SUCKS and I'm pretty stressed out about it.
So the internet tells me NPD = narcissistic personality disorder. The Wikipedia description sounds like a well-known personality currently resident in Washington, DC.
The thirteen-year-old did the right thing, locking himself in his room. He must have been frightened and angry. What a stupid thing for their parents to do!
Why can't this personality disorder be diagnosed before eighteen? Not a lot of use doing it once the kid is eighteen, as s/he is then an "adult" and parents have no legal right to recourse of any kind. I once met the parents of a man with very severe mental disorders. They could not, by law, intervene in any way to help him or to protect him from himself. This case seems similar. Once the girl is diagnosed, she will be out of her parents' legal sphere.
Susan, I'm so sorry this happened! As if you don't have enough to worry about.
The Wikipedia article doesn't mention anything magic about age 18, but it does mention that children often show similar symptoms but then get over them. Part of growing up, in a way. So you want to be careful about making this diagnosis too early.
Wow, Susan. Good for you speaking to your son about it. Great stress is still no excuse for leaving those children home unsupervised. That is neglect. The PINS petition is a good first step. Has the 13 year old been given assurance that he will never again be subjected to that situation again? My heart aches for you. Is it true that nothing will come of what happened? I imagine the person who got beaten will file charges (to pay hospital costs), and that the angry neighbors may file a complaint. If so, and the daughter ends up in juvenile court, maybe a judge can order treatment for her? I hope something good comes out of this mess. Grandmothers bear such love and such pain. Sending some extra love.
Loving life in a small town! We have a local Front Porch Forum that is emailed as needed to those who sign up to receive it. Often there is a notice about a missing dog and immediately afterward may be a notice about a dog that was found, and the descriptions match. Today, though, this message, from our beloved Town Clerk, is the one that made me smile: “So if you are not sure who to call, ask the Town Clerk. Received a call today wondering if I knew the recipie for Helen Lawrence's fruit cake. If you have the information, please share.”
Well, I don't know about Helen Lawrence's fruit cake recipe, but I have Dorothy Barbour's fruitcake recipe (rather expensive to make) and [steamed] carrot pudding recipe (very good with hard sauce--have that recipe too).
Hey, could everyone see the Wreath photo from yesterday and can everyone see that sunset photo for today? Strangely, I cannot see these past two days' photos here, but I can see them when I get into Blogger where I post them from. If they stay messed up I'll work on it Wednesday.
ReplyDeleteI can see them both.
Deletehttps://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/7/1817770/-Kurt-Eichenwald-explains-clearly-how-Trump-is-in-danger-on-fraud-money-laundering-and-other-crimes This is really good.
ReplyDeleteI saw the wreath yesterday/earlier. Seeing nothing now.
Very good indeed; thanks, puddle!
DeleteI saw the wreath yesterday and today (had to ask the Internet what an "Advent wreath" was, though); the twilight photo I couldn't see earlier (maybe just because I didn't give it enough time to load), but can now.
ReplyDeleteNo trouble seeing the photos.
ReplyDeleteNeed to vent. Son and DIL went on a 4 day trip to IL for business. Left 17 y.o daughter and 13 y.o. son home alone in another state. By the time I found out it was too late to intervene. Daughter has NPD and the only reason she hasn't been officially diagnosed is because they can't before 18.
Skimming the lowlife highlights. She had a massive party at the house. G'son locked himself in his bedroom. About 30 kids, some known by name to the local police, felony stuff. Boy in front yard beaten by 5 and is now in hospital. In house furniture broken, electronics stolen, very bad scene, neighbors understandably furious. NPD daughter is so self-involved she said "Well, police didn't do anything, so no big deal". She doesn't even *begin* to grasp the gravity of what happened. I didn't let my son off the hook. Told him that he knows very well what she is and pretending she'll do the right thing was foolish, and he endangered his son by leaving him with a girl with no boundaries and less sense.
Son has completely *other* REALLY BAD STUFF going on in his life and this added to it hasn't helped at all. Right now daughter has been staying with friends since Sunday. Son and DIL going to court to file a PINS petition.
I'm so sorry he has to go through this but there's nothing at all I - or anyone else - can really do to help.
Trying not to give any identifying info because everything stays on the internet forever. But this sh-t really SUCKS and I'm pretty stressed out about it.
So the internet tells me NPD = narcissistic personality disorder. The Wikipedia description sounds like a well-known personality currently resident in Washington, DC.
DeleteAnd yes, having someone like that as the "responsible adult" in the house is not a good idea.
DeleteThe thirteen-year-old did the right thing, locking himself in his room. He must have been frightened and angry. What a stupid thing for their parents to do!
DeleteWhy can't this personality disorder be diagnosed before eighteen? Not a lot of use doing it once the kid is eighteen, as s/he is then an "adult" and parents have no legal right to recourse of any kind. I once met the parents of a man with very severe mental disorders. They could not, by law, intervene in any way to help him or to protect him from himself. This case seems similar. Once the girl is diagnosed, she will be out of her parents' legal sphere.
Susan, I'm so sorry this happened! As if you don't have enough to worry about.
The Wikipedia article doesn't mention anything magic about age 18, but it does mention that children often show similar symptoms but then get over them. Part of growing up, in a way. So you want to be careful about making this diagnosis too early.
DeleteWow, Susan. Good for you speaking to your son about it. Great stress is still no excuse for leaving those children home unsupervised. That is neglect. The PINS petition is a good first step. Has the 13 year old been given assurance that he will never again be subjected to that situation again? My heart aches for you.
DeleteIs it true that nothing will come of what happened? I imagine the person who got beaten will file charges (to pay hospital costs), and that the angry neighbors may file a complaint. If so, and the daughter ends up in juvenile court, maybe a judge can order treatment for her? I hope something good comes out of this mess. Grandmothers bear such love and such pain. Sending some extra love.
A Susan, bummer. I cared for an NPD lady once. Takes buckets of energy, to say the least. Hugz!
ReplyDeleteGood Heavens, Susan. Often times there just isn't a blessed thing one can do, which certainly doesn't make things any better.
ReplyDeleteLoving life in a small town!
ReplyDeleteWe have a local Front Porch Forum that is emailed as needed to those who sign up to receive it. Often there is a notice about a missing dog and immediately afterward may be a notice about a dog that was found, and the descriptions match. Today, though, this message, from our beloved Town Clerk, is the one that made me smile:
“So if you are not sure who to call, ask the Town Clerk. Received a call today wondering if I knew the recipie for Helen Lawrence's fruit cake. If you have the information, please share.”
Well, I don't know about Helen Lawrence's fruit cake recipe, but I have Dorothy Barbour's fruitcake recipe (rather expensive to make) and [steamed] carrot pudding recipe (very good with hard sauce--have that recipe too).
DeleteHow strange. I replied to Susan's message and it never posted. I'll try again.
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